Add a scythe



  • I’d look very good with a scythe.



  • We absolutely should have a scythe.



  • I understand this game is still fictional anyway, but still… no one used a scythe in medieval warfare…the reality of it is, it’s just not a good maneuverable weapon like a sword is, or a good halberd and that’s a good reason why it wouldn’t be used. A scythe just wouldn’t belong.

    The only thing I think you could get close to, is if people start Modding this game, to change the way maybe a halberd looks by skinning it, and make it into a scythe.



  • @MetalDevil19:

    I understand this game is still fictional anyway, but still… no one used a scythe in medieval warfare…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_scythe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedgemoor
    You are wrong and no one should love you.



  • @BillDoor:

    @MetalDevil19:

    I understand this game is still fictional anyway, but still… no one used a scythe in medieval warfare…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_scythe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedgemoor
    You are wrong and no one should love you.

    yeah ok, but unfortunately there are flaws, not the right era, and the idea of using a scythe weapon came from “Peasants,” not the medieval military. Also it looks like they’re using the weapons later (1685-1932), this game takes place in an earlier time.

    your info trying to prove me wrong is invalid…STILL.

    Medieval times, or another word for it “Dark ages” takes place somewhere in the 1300’s.

    You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

    If they do add it, just for the shits and giggles, since this game is fictional anyway, then w/e and so be it. I still ain’t gonna use it. 8-)



  • MetalDevil does have a good point, War Scythes really weren’t used in the Medieval era.



  • Actually, Billhook is made from a peasant scythe reworked y a blacksmith. A war scythe is a classic scythe with its blade reoriented. Bardiche is the closest weapon to a war scythe.

    As during campaigns peasants were forcefully brought into the battlefield, they used harvest tools and improvised weapons, as scythe, axe, sickle, and even sticks…

    You could find more of these on the usual bannermen battles because there were few knights involved.

    On another hand, important battles such as Crecy, Azincourt, Grandson, involved essentially professionnal soldiers, with dedicated equipment.

    A realistic medieval warfare game would involve a lot of shitty weapons no one would want to use.

    And none of the sweilhander/claymore/2H swords that were never or pretty rarely employed. They are classy, fancy, but usually for ceremony or demonstration purpose. Halberds, poleaxe and such were more for late 14th century, and Dark Age was over then.

    Medieval warfare is funnier the way Chivalry, or all the mainstream-flamboyant-gladiatoresque movies has been teaching us.



  • This game needs a big manly two handed logger axe for the knight



  • @MetalDevil19:

    Medieval times, or another word for it “Dark ages” takes place somewhere in the 1300’s.

    Wow, only 1 century? And here I thought it was 1000 years. The game is supposedly set in 1266, yet includes weapons not developed for hundreds of years later. It also doesn’t include cannon, which were just starting to be used then.

    Scythes have been used for over 2000 years. The Romans used scythes for farming. They were often used by peasants who had been impressed into service.

    Texts from the 1500s include fencing instructions for scythes.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Ages
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War

    @MetalDevil19:

    If they do add it, just for the shits and giggles, since this game is fictional anyway, then w/e and so be it. I still ain’t gonna use it. 8-)

    Good. You’d suck with it, too.

    @delta:

    Actually, Billhook is made from a peasant scythe reworked y a blacksmith. A war scythe is a classic scythe with its blade reoriented. Bardiche is the closest weapon to a war scythe….A realistic medieval warfare game would involve a lot of shitty weapons no one would want to use.

    I use the Billhook when I can’t stand not having a blade on a stick. But it’s still not a scythe. :(
    I’d say at least half of the weapons already in this game are never used. I’m looking at you thrusting dagger.



  • I’d like to note this isn’t a thread/poll about the war scythe. That had been requested in another thread.
    I could see a weapon tree of Sickle/Scythe/War Scythe maybe.
    This was very interesting:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=97neHuFfPLI

    I DO look good with a scythe.
    [attachment=0:28kjvlkp]scythe-500.jpg[/attachment:28kjvlkp]



  • There’s already billhook. A type of scythe.



  • A scythe is a slicing blade attached perpendicular to a handled angled extension. It is used for slashing attacks. Because of the angle and handles, the slashing attack is more accelerated than it would be on a war scythe.

    A war scythe is a slicing blade attached parallel with a straight pole. It is used primarily for piercing and it would not hold up to prolonged chops into armor like the billhook.

    A billhook is a ‘bill’ attached parallel with a straight pole and used primarily in a chop. A bill is a pruning tool that holds up to heavy abuse. You could easily convert this into a war scythe with minor length and dmg type change.

    None of the weapons currently in the game approximate a scythe’s action and you couldn’t just ‘reskin’ the billhook or bardiche to get the same effect.

    This video has peasant sickle, scythe, flail attacks and defenses shown. 1:01 for scythe.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=97neHuFfPLI



  • Sorry, no for me. Just because it was used a few times in history it still seems to be more of a fantasy weapon to me.

    Also where would it fit into the game mechanic wise? Would it be a shorter, slower bardiche with more power or a fast, less damaging polearm?



  • Sorry, no for me. Just because it was used a few times in history it still seems to be more of a fantasy weapon to me.

    Nope, as used as swords if you think by numbers. Enrolled filthy peasants were given no weapons.
    You can see war scythes until end of XIIIth century in every battle including peasants (french revolution as an example).



  • Doesn’t matter how often or hard you defend this post, your idea of a scythe isn’t getting put in the game, deal with it.



  • Would be interesting trying to parry/block a scythe…that extra reach over the top would totally pierce your brain. :P



  • @Dr:

    Also where would it fit into the game mechanic wise? Would it be a shorter, slower bardiche with more power or a fast, less damaging polearm?

    More like a sword slash, but with a terrible stab.
    I do understand it would not a competitive weapon. And the team kills … well let’s not dwell on lost friends.

    @AngryDave:

    Would be interesting trying to parry/block a scythe…that extra reach over the top would totally pierce your brain. :P

    @MetalDevil19:

    Doesn’t matter how often or hard you defend this post, your idea of a scythe isn’t getting put in the game, deal with it.

    I have no problem with people voting no. That’s why I put “No” as an option in the poll! umad? :D



  • @BillDoor:

    I DO look good with a scythe.
    [attachment=0:3tak4it0]scythe-500.jpg[/attachment:3tak4it0]

    If you do end up getting a scythe, you will also have to be given some kind of banshee scream in place of the war cry.



  • @delta:

    Sorry, no for me. Just because it was used a few times in history it still seems to be more of a fantasy weapon to me.

    Nope, as used as swords if you think by numbers. Enrolled filthy peasants were given no weapons.
    You can see war scythes until end of XIIIth century in every battle including peasants (french revolution as an example).

    I certainly see your point about agricultural tools being used widely and swords were on the most part rare knightly weapons. However of all the agricultural tools that are mentioned in historical sources being used in warfare I see flails, bills and clubs like the Goedendag mentioned far more often.

    Also levies were actually often given weapons, usually a simple spear and a shield. It was usually rebellions that forced peasants to use modified farming tools.

    So are we talking about a War Scythe here? Because that looks different anyway.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_scythe



  • @Dr:

    So are we talking about a War Scythe here? Because that looks different anyway.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_scythe

    The billhook approximates a war scythe. It would be relatively easy to modify a billhook to look at act like a war scythe, but why bother?
    This poll is about the scythe,

    @Dr:

    Also levies were actually often given weapons, usually a simple spear and a shield. It was usually rebellions that forced peasants to use modified farming tools.

    This varied by circumstance. Money always matters.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry_in_the_Middle_Ages
    But I do see your point. Solution? Peasant rebellion expansion pack! Viva la revolucion!

    @King:

    If you do end up getting a scythe, you will also have to be given some kind of banshee scream in place of the war cry.

    I was thinking along the lines of: TREMBLE, MORTALS


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