Spear type weapon buff(Spear stab/thrust combo)



  • @JCash:

    You’re a man at arms bro, accept it. Keep your opinions confined to man at arms stuff, or giving the ‘man at arms’ perspective on an issue. You’re actually good at that.

    It’s not like you to think people can only be good at one thing. What a pity…

    And now I laugh, because everything shouldn’t be able to drag except a spear, which is what you play ;)



  • @NoVaLombardia:

    @JCash:

    You’re a man at arms bro, accept it. Keep your opinions confined to man at arms stuff, or giving the ‘man at arms’ perspective on an issue. You’re actually good at that.

    It’s not like you to think people can only be good at one thing. What a pity…

    And now I laugh, because everything shouldn’t be able to drag except a spear, which is what you play ;)

    Spear doesn’t have an overhead capable of dragging. Spear does not have a lmb that is worth anything.

    It has feinting, getting nerfd (thank god) and its range (which, compared to other van weps, isnt even all that much more.)

    And it has two stabs, one of those two is good to drag with.

    So yea, i think it needs to be able to drag that stab. Its not like it has other things.

    Can’t even combo, so no combo to parry.

    Spear is a unique class of weapon. Sticking to a foolish consistency when variables are different is the absolute height of absurdity.

    Aaaaand, i’m not against the ability to drag, just the extremes of OVERHEAD dragging, idk why dragging on stabs for any weapon needs any change at all to be entirely honest.



  • As JCash says, drag with stabs should be possible, I feel sort of crippled when I use the spear in the beta patck.



  • @Dubjay:

    As JCash says, drag with stabs should be possible, I feel sort of crippled when I use the spear in the beta patck.

    Cast aside your preconceived notions… bring back the roots. Look at your spear, now back to me, now back at your spear, and back at me again. Notice that weapon in your hands? It is now a giant diamond. Try spearing on a horse.



  • Notice that weapon in your hands? It is now a giant diamond. Try spearing on a horse.

    Would you mind explaining what the hell you are talking about? That made so little sense that I forgot to eat lunch.



  • I replied to a topic in the Ask TBS section about this:

    @BobT36:

    Simply allow them to combo with certain attacks.

    • A single Left to right, into a right to left sweep combo, (slow of course).

    • A single Left to right sweep, into a Thrust stab, the one on the overhead (pfft) button.

    Makes sense if you could allow it only in that way, as the arms would be in the perfect place to do that with a spear. I don’t think it would be too powerful since the sweeps are pretty slow as they are, it would infact give more fluidity to those attacks, and encourage the sweep to be used more for keeping the enemy at bay.

    Just my opinion of course.



  • i play vanguard with spear all the time, i’ve found my niche in tribes. i think the spear is already a fantastic weapon - longest reach in the game AND i can stand behind someone who is already fighting and poke at their opponent with virtually no risk of getting hit myself. brilliant!!!
    this is my main weapon and i don’t think it needs buffing at all, i’m happy with it as it is thank you.



  • @veganman:

    i play vanguard with spear all the time, i’ve found my niche in tribes. i think the spear is already a fantastic weapon - longest reach in the game AND i can stand behind someone who is already fighting and poke at their opponent with virtually no risk of getting hit myself. brilliant!!!
    this is my main weapon and i don’t think it needs buffing at all, i’m happy with it as it is thank you.

    I don’t see allowing certain combos to be a flat out “buff”. Moreso a focus on fluidity of combat and varied playstyles. Spear is actually quite restrictive as a weapon at the moment (besides poking). You should be able to do more with a spear than we can now, doesn’t necessarily mean the weapon will be stronger.



  • Yes, allow spear to combo is hardly a buff.

    I play Vanguard spearman all the time(using standard spear), it is very good as support weapon yes. But the thrust and stab is way too predictable that people can parry them most the time when they see it coming. With combo allowed, I could fake my first stab/thrust by making them miss and then do the follow up second attack fluidly when you opponent think your guard is down.

    Having to wait to start another attack aren’t that enjoyable. (As I played with spear personalily in life)



  • @EricFong:

    Yes, allow spear to combo is hardly a buff.

    I play Vanguard spearman all the time(using standard spear), it is very good as support weapon yes. But the thrust and stab is way too predictable that people can parry them most the time when they see it coming. With combo allowed, I could fake my first stab/thrust by making them miss and then do the follow up second attack fluidly when you opponent think your guard is down.

    you tell me it’s not a buff, then you go on to describe how it will make it easier for you to attack successfully. in what way is that NOT a buff?
    i always play vanguard and always take the bog standard spear.
    spears are not for dueling. they are, as you said yourself, SUPPORT weapons. 1v1 i get killed lots. when i play as part of a team i get loads of kills (finishing top fairly often) and don’t die very much. sure the spear is easy to parry, the trick is to stab opponents when they are parrying someone else, or attack from a flank. works everytime.
    played properly i think the spear is an absolutely devastating weapon. if you think the spear is not already powerful enough you’re not playing it right imo.
    it’s not broken so please don’t fix it.



  • Spear is definitely in a perfect place… ALMOST

    the other issue is that Halberd might as well be a spear that can combo; slightly slower, but more damage.

    There’s definitely an issue comparing the two.



  • in spear vs. halberd, the main thing that helps the spear is that VERY small added range… but it’s honestly too small for the inability to combo. Id say reduce the halberd range just EVER SO SLIGHTLY lower. Then the matchup would be pretty even… range is very important in polearm vs. polearm



  • @veganman:

    it’s not broken so please don’t fix it.

    It is merely making it more fluid in combat



  • @EricFong:

    @veganman:

    it’s not broken so please don’t fix it.

    It is merely making it more fluid in combat

    have you read the title at the top of this thread that you started? here it is.

    Spear type weapon buff(Spear stab/thrust combo)

    pretty sure i can see the word BUFF in there somewhere.LOL
    not really sure about this “fluidity” thing either. can’t combo - but i don’t have too much of a problem rolling my mouse wheel back and forwards to sort of combo when i need to. i just accept no combo as one of the limitations of the weapon. no weapon is perfect. should stop trying to make them all the same.
    if the spear must have a buff, PLEASE make it a rocket launcher spear. i’d really like one of those.



  • i vote no. Spears are highly damaging and have insane range. Make combos available and it will be OP as crap



  • @vinch:

    i vote no. Spears are highly damaging and have insane range. Make combos available and it will be OP as crap

    So, how do we fix the halberd then? It’s basically a spear that can combo.



  • @NoVaLombardia:

    So, how do we fix the halberd then? It’s basically a spear that can combo.

    didn’t know it was broken, don’t have a problem with it myself.

    seriously though, if the spear does indeed get a buff- i’ll be invincible, INVINCIBLE!!!
    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    don’t say you weren’t warned.



  • @veganman:

    @NoVaLombardia:

    So, how do we fix the halberd then? It’s basically a spear that can combo.

    seriously though, if the spear does indeed get a buff- i’ll be invincible, INVINCIBLE!!!
    MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    don’t say you weren’t warned.

    i believe the spear IS getting a buff after all…… Are you sure you REALLY want to do this???
    You have been warned.



  • From the way the beta is looking, spears don’t really need combos. The only reason they may have needed to combo was because of combo feint parry, which is pretty much vital right now to face a good MAA. But this will be changed on the beta. No more combo feint parry = no more disadvantage for the spear.



  • Spears most likely won’t be getting combos by the way. As cool as it would be.


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