[WEP] Weapon Suggestion Compilation

Evil Minion

As there are a lot of weapon suggestions distributed all over this forum and some reappearing again and again I thought one could summarize. As the setting of the game are the European Middle Ages I did not include any weapons I found too exotic (American or East Asian), too much like fantasy weapons (like claws) or which do not fit the games limitiations (like a Pike).

Also I strongly feel new weapons should have their own touch. For example a Voulge (Pole Cleaver) might be so close to the Bardiche that it would be more like a remodel than a weapon of its own (in which case it would be more like a pure customisation issue).

Some weapon suggestions I found and think they could work out:

Staff Sling (Archer)

similar to the Sling but slower and more damaging
Kestros (Archer)
piercing damage sling
Fire Siphon (Archer)
short ranged flamethrower with very low ammo
more like a terror/support weapon
War Spear (Man at Arms, Vanguard)
a shorter version of the spear somewhere between the Heavy Javelin and the Fork
wieldable with a shield
Rapier/Sidesword (Man at Arms)
a dedicated onehanded stabbing sword
War Scythe (Man at Arms, Vanguard)
a small polearm dealing cutting damage, weaker stab
Sickle (Archer, Man at Arms)
a short powerful cutting weapon with poor stab (maybe a sidearm)
Twohanded Flail (Man at Arms, Vanguard, Knight)
a long Pierce/Blunt weapon
Ahlspiess (Vanguard)
a short powerful spear
Godendag/Plançon a picot (Man at Arms, Vanguard)
a short crushing polearm
Pickaxe/Horseman’s pick (Knight)
operating similar to the Poleaxe (but with a spike)
a powerful and slow piercing weapon
Bec de Corbin (Vanguard)
the polearm version if the above
operating similar to the Polehammer (but with its spike)
Burgundian Poleaxe (Vanguard)
a longer version of the Poleaxe
Estoc (Vanguard, Knight)
twohanded sword optimized for piercing
weak slashes and overheads

I might add other suggestions if they are unique enough and match the setting (no Katanas please).

Hunutteri

@Evil:

Archer:
Staff Sling - similar to the Sling but slower and more damaging (far more as the Sling needs a damage buff :-D )

Vanguard:
Ahlspiess - a short powerful spear
Godendag - a short crushing polearm

Knight.
Pickaxe/Horseman’s pick - a powerful and slow piercing weapon

These are the ones i like the most. :)

Falc

I really would have liked an Ahlspiess. But instead we got the brandistock and the fork, quite hideous weapons (imho of course ;) ). The fork is a tool and not a weapon fitting a Vg. You look like a peasant with that thing :D

Sir Vincent

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“GODENDAG!”

These weapon ideas would be fun. I like the idea of the scythe and the Ahlspiess.

Evil Minion

Added the Fire Siphon (Greek Fire). Other than this most ideas (especially the Rapier) just get repeated over and over.

Dr z0b

@Falc:

I really would have liked an Ahlspiess. But instead we got the brandistock and the fork, quite hideous weapons (imho of course ;) ). The fork is a tool and not a weapon fitting a Vg. You look like a peasant with that thing :D

Agree, the Brandistock is ugly and a stupid choice for the most damaging spear. The most damaging types of spears have a single, long spike which will go all the way through a person not three short prongs that won’t go very deep.

Also the fork is also stupid for a similar reason. The only point in using a fork is to trap enemy spears.

Evil Minion

Bumping this as people keep making the same/similar suggestions.

Carolean

I’d like to see a “peasant” line of weapons to complete the MAA quarterstaff tree.

I’d like to see a pickax, and then a pitchfork of some kind.

SavageBeatings

The hussite farmer’s flail and the flemish blacksmith’s goedendag could be good additions to the Man at Arms’ quarterstaff.

[image:3agp8sc7]http://www.wulflund.com/img/goods/en/medium/flail_hussite_war_weapon_b.jpg[/image:3agp8sc7]

[image:3agp8sc7]http://www.liebaart.org/figuren/goedendr.jpg[/image:3agp8sc7]

Evil Minion

Updated the original post.

I also found a similar topic that claimed to get updated regularly - from 2012. :D

Until now my favorites for the open spots are
Archer: Staff Sling, Fire Siphon (not much choice here)
Man at Arms: Godendag, War Scythe
Vanguard: Bec de Corbin, Twohanded Flail
Knight: Horseman’s Pick (maybe some switcharound to get it in one row with Maul and Grand Mace)

Bufzar

I think the weapon trees could use a little shuffling with some additions Bardiche>Billhook>war scythe and say Polehammer>halberd>Poleaxe(a proper one) While spears get Fork(light lance or boar spear?)>spear>awlpike and Knight gets a shortened voulge to replace the poleaxe, which always seemed kind of out of place. I like the addition of a two handed flail to the flail tree, and the godendag and war spear to the man-at-arms tree. Archer is a bit harder, the only thing I could find that would fit the sling and staff sling was a kestros, but that was ancient era. Regardless, I think they should rename the heavy crossbow to arbalest.

Evil Minion

I don’t think the Poleaxe is out of place as a Knight weapon while a shortened Voulge would be. Having a longer version for the Vanguard could still work - but personally I would rather see a Bec de Corbin.

Voulge and Boar Spear would be very similar to Bardiche and Fork - maybe candidates for weapon skins if there will ever be such a thing. As Chivalry already is slightly anachronistic I will add the Kestros to the list.

I agree with the renaming of the Heavy Crossbow (and people will stop suggesting the Arbalest).

lllAnteklll

Yeah, let’s rise this thread from it’s grave. I like it :)

A twohanded flail would be a very good thing to add to the flails-tree. Get 75 kill with a flail to get this twohanded flail unlocked. But 100 kills remaining would be better cuz there is no first unlock for 25 in the flails-tree.

I would also be very glad to see more twohanded weapons for MAA in the quarterstaff tree. Just add some weapons to the most downside trees.

And I would be very glad to see katar. It would be a very fast weapon(it would strike as fast as fists do) with good damage(30-35) and very short range. Very good weapon for MAA.

WARSAW

id love to see a mod where the 2 heavy classes could interchange weapons as well as the 2 light classes.

ie: knight and van can swap and archers and maa could swap, just mele not ranged, or too many ppl would cry OP i think.

Jezal dan Luthar

I would like to see the Rapier/Shortsword as a fast, mid-range stabbing-weapon, powerful against lighter classes but not that bad against the heavy ones but with very bad overhead and slash attacks.

giantyak

Estoc = SoW

Godendag for VG, bring it on.

I think the warfork should move to the MAA and the VG should get a warspear (for use with shield).

Xylvion

two handed flail would be neat (:

SavageBeatings

@lllAnteklll:

A twohanded flail would be a very good thing to add to the flails-tree. Get 75 kill with a flail to get this twohanded flail unlocked. But 100 kills remaining would be better cuz there is no first unlock for 25 in the flails-tree.

Since you fight with the 2h flail more in the style of a quarterstaff (since it is a 2h staff, basically), I think it should be part of the Man-at-Arms quarterstaff progression. Also, the 2h flail is a farmer’s tool, should a Knight really use something as lowly as that?

The Knight could get a third 1h flail with two or three smaller spiked balls.

lemonater47

The one handed flail also came from that farming tool.

SavageBeatings

@lemonater47:

The one handed flail also came from that farming tool.

No duh.

All I’m saying is the 2h flail was a farming tool which peasants used in uprisings, and the Hussites were famous for using a lot of flails (and handgonnes). They hammered studs into them before war, to make them hurt more. Then it was militarised, made into a one-handed weapon with a chain and small studded metal balls instead of looking like this. Can you imagine an Agatha Knight with this?

I can hardly imagine a Man-at-Arms with one of those either, but they are the light infantry class, very much like peasants, so they fit the best.