SoW nerf



  • Unfortunately the combo speed nerf kinda kills the shock value of this weapon. It used to be that once you can get a stab in, following a combo overhead is a given with its crazy speed. Now, its significantly easier to react to the combo.

    I didn’t find the release buff useful mainly because I use a lot of look down overhead, so my weapon strikes immediately after release anyway.

    @lemonater47:

    Its always taken 4 hits to take down a knight. Even with a claymore.

    Stab-overhead-stab combo can take down a knight, even with all body shots.



  • I, for one, am looking forward to this ;)



  • On beta, the vast majority of knights are still using longsword and SoW. They are still king in terms of versatility and as long as that remains true they will always remain strong weapons.



  • @Wangmaster:

    I didn’t find the release buff useful mainly because I use a lot of look down overhead, so my weapon strikes immediately after release anyway.

    Congratulations you just announced loudly and in public that you’re a massive, miserable twat. I hope you’re proud of yourself. :|

    Back to topic: Looking forward on how SoW will work after the update. Imo it’s a bit too stronk right now.



  • i’m more of a longsword man these days, i’ll have to check again what changes were done to that, it feels almost the same to me but i’ve been mainly vanguarding in the beta lmao



  • The SoW will be unplayable in Eu comp. Every Vangaurd is better than a sow knight.



  • @KÄPTn:

    The SoW will be unplayable in Eu comp. Every Vangaurd is better than a sow knight.

    Since knights have better secondaries and a shield 2H sword vanguards should be better than 2H sword knights, dont you think?



  • @TheUndying:

    @Wangmaster:

    I didn’t find the release buff useful mainly because I use a lot of look down overhead, so my weapon strikes immediately after release anyway.

    Congratulations you just announced loudly and in public that you’re a massive, miserable twat. I hope you’re proud of yourself. :|

    Heh, I guess i’m just not a hypocrite. Its obvious that a lot of people use them, I’m not gonna deny that i’m one of the many.

    @KÄPTn:

    The SoW will be unplayable in Eu comp. Every Vangaurd is better than a sow knight.

    That’s a little harsh, I think SoW will still be a function-able weapon but its definitely gonna be a shadow of its former self.



  • @Towe:

    Since knights have better secondaries and a shield 2H sword vanguards should be better than 2H sword knights, dont you think?

    This makes complete sense to me. I wouldn’t mind if this were 100% true.



  • @ChuckingIt:

    @Towe:

    Since knights have better secondaries and a shield 2H sword vanguards should be better than 2H sword knights, dont you think?

    This makes complete sense to me. I wouldn’t mind if this were 100% true.

    Show me a Knight secondary that is better than Dane Axe.



  • @Daiyuki:

    Show me a Knight secondary that is better than Dane Axe.

    I was mostly going off the shield part. But I personally use short sword when I go Vg. Plus the broadsword/falchion/flanged mace are great secondaries. I only fear the Dane axe in the hands of a MAA because of the forward dodge to look down overhead. But that won’t be a problem much longer.



  • Honestly, I’m still on the fence about the 2h sword nerfs for knights. Those combo times were crucial and part of what makes these weapons so versatile. SoW nerf might have been justified though. In the right hands the attacks are relentless.

    What I am concerned with is that the vanguard’s claymore got a significant buff in all respects minus damage. It’s essentially a longer broadsword now + knockback. And as all of you know, the broadsword is an excellent weapon. I might just switch to that and forget about knights all together if I could just make up the HP loss with the speed/reach of a vanguard.



  • In FFA modes on Live vanguards are already used heavily, a Knight with SoW or well used Messar could still top them, however with this new claymore… I hope not to see 19/20 players as vanguard…



  • Is the one handed version of the SoW being changed at all?



  • I believe 1H will be getting a damage nerf as well.

    And yeah, messer is still as deadly as ever. Might main that after the patch if not for the fact that its too slow to engage MAAs with.



  • @Wangmaster:

    I believe 1H will be getting a damage nerf as well.

    The only changes to 1h knight swords were buffs to the Messer.



  • @SlyGoat:

    The only changes to 1h knight swords were buffs to the Messer.

    Smooth



  • It’s a good that they nerfed SoW in beta. It was absurdly OP. Stronger stab than Longsword and faster.



  • @-Thylacine-:

    It’s a good that they nerfed SoW in beta. It was absurdly OP. Stronger stab than Longsword and faster.

    Longsword has better overhead… SoW really only has the advantage in recovery time on the stab, though yes it is marginally faster if you combo as well.



  • @Daiyuki:

    @-Thylacine-:

    It’s a good that they nerfed SoW in beta. It was absurdly OP. Stronger stab than Longsword and faster.

    Longsword has better overhead… SoW really only has the advantage in recovery time on the stab, though yes it is marginally faster if you combo as well.

    Stab>Overhead.

    Stabs are harder to block if done correctly and have the highest reach.


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