Samurai are too good



  • I’ll tell you guys when I start having a problem fighting Sams



  • @BB:

    I’ll tell you guys when I start having a problem fighting Sams

    I just noticed you’re no longer in balance council. Good call TBS….Good call.



  • Samurai aren’t “too good” IMO. The problem is that the other classes need to be brought in line with it. Personally I feel like the samurai and obviously the knight port are theonly2 classes that feel, for a lack of a better word, finished. Basically they are the only 2 that I can play and not feel like I’m gimped due to a poorly balanced weapon selection or spotty mechanics(i.e. Ninja roll feels very clunky or berserk being almost useless as Viking). The tweaks are needed on the other classes before we jump on the nerf this or that bandwagon. Just my 2 cents.



  • @SirBlade:

    @BB:

    I’ll tell you guys when I start having a problem fighting Sams

    I just noticed you’re no longer in balance council. Good call TBS….Good call.

    lol Balance Council was a sham to fool the clannies into thinking TB was listening to them anyways



  • @BB:

    @SirBlade:

    @BB:

    I’ll tell you guys when I start having a problem fighting Sams

    I just noticed you’re no longer in balance council. Good call TBS….Good call.

    lol Balance Council was a sham to fool the clannies into thinking TB was listening to them anyways

    So does that mean it is no longer around? or are you just but mad that you got kicked?



  • Looks like the balance council is gone. Knil was a member of it wasn’t he? He’s not labelled either.



  • actually looks like we’re all still on the council, even the ones that explicitly quit the game
    memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11468

    I never expected TB to be arsed with removing any of us, they simply deleted the BC decal



  • @BB:

    actually looks like we’re all still on the council, even the ones that explicitly quit the game
    memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11468

    I never expected TB to be arsed with removing any of us, they simply deleted the BC decal

    for an official member of any official group that has to do with balancing issues, you sure show alot of disrespect and direct rudeness towards the players you respond to…

    can’t believe they would take in a guy like you after seeing your ‘performance’ here on this forum… but perhaps they didn’t see it at all? YET?



  • I can’t be arsed to coddle dummies
    telling you to fuck off is a lot easier than explaining why you’re so wrong

    more on topic, I’ve never seen a team class game won by the Sams when teams were even
    they only ever win by outnumber the rest of the server 8v5



  • Samurai are fine, get good clayton



  • Samurai are very far from being fine.

    They pretty much have everything. Great speed, sick dmg, insane reach, and decent hp.
    The only other classes that can compare would be Knight or Spartan, and only if they are superior skilled.

    I started out playing a decent amount of Samurai thinking they were fairly balanced, but after playing the other classes a bit more it’s pretty safe to say they are worlds apart.

    Also nerf the goddamn pirate, WHY OH WHY CAN THAT BASTARD 1-SHOT A VIKING AND SPARTAN? I MEAN COME ON

    Also shooting through Spartan shields just makes me shake me head, and exit the game



  • yari spear ftw baby. idk i guess they could be left alone… but in live that will be the only class i will use if i want to win easily every time. Crushed, which class were you playing with on stream running around killing everything? which class do you play the MOST? We’ve all been mixing the characters trying everything, but every single time i’ve seen you in game which class were you? What is your reason for being samurai so often?



  • i was joking calm your tits



  • i can’t tell man. Srsly though they are very strong right now. I can beat them with other classes, but not an entire team of them so i def win small groups of combat in team, but overall their team fighting skill is so good. Last time i used them I didn’t die at all and got plenty of kills. Was LTS or something like that.

    i’ll be playing tomorrow and streaming.



  • Sams are fine , look they have no shields and they dont have any special items or super powers, with the viking you can kill a sam in 1 good combo , the vik can REGEN health and throw their weapons and dual wield , the ninja can kill a sam easy! just use the gas bomb + a combo , they can also dodge , and they have a good melee reach weapon, Spartans have the shield that in the current build cant be kicked to follow with a melee attack, they can throw a spear that will kill u in 1 hit , please check a 2v2 fight sams vs spartans (spartans will win because of the shield and long range), Pirates can kill a sam with the pistol in ONE SHOT !!! if they get into a melee fight , the sam will prop win, and Knights are sams with more armor and shields , but a little slower so ….

    If anything I would ask the devs to nerf the range of the pirate pistols and change the AOE of the ninja gas



  • Having now played a fair bit, really liking the way deadliest warrior is heading… but at the risk of sounding like I’m jumping on the samurai are OP band wagon…

    I see too many folk and too many samurai teams dominating for it to be fluke.

    Lets just put it in context, imagine giving a vanguard in chiv, a much faster two handed sword, beefed up armour, a bow, and there you have it, a samurai as it stands.

    Rather than suggest an unimaginative debuff for the samurai, part of the thing I love is the different flavour to each ‘class’ in DW, so why not try to expand on that…

    1. Ditch combo’s, leave him with an exceptionally fast and heavy well ranged set of attacks, but make every strike individual. Sort of suits the samurai / kendo-ish flavour of striking in my mind anyway.

    Or.
    2. Really slow his movement, making his own mobility suffer for the mobility of the weapon, this fits potentially for a game play mechanic, though probably less well with reality, since it’d be silly to have a guy running rings in full plate…

    Or.
    3. The opposite of the archer’s backstab, a debuff for none-frontal hits by %50, call it honour, whatever :)



  • Samurai totally balanced.
    get good, fuk u scrub etc. etc.



  • Now you all know what it feels like to be a vanguard with knight armor. 8-)



  • Its just the No-Dachi sword that’s the problem. The rest of the samurai is fine. A slight slowdown in windup, combo and recovery to punish LMB spamming with it and it’ll be fine.

    @KONGEN:

    Also nerf the goddamn pirate, WHY OH WHY CAN THAT BASTARD 1-SHOT A VIKING AND SPARTAN? I MEAN COME ON

    Also shooting through Spartan shields just makes me shake me head, and exit the game

    You volunteering to get shot in the face? To prove that bullets get stopped completely by your skull before they enter your brain.

    Against spartan shield pistole does 20 damage and the blunderbuss does 5 damage per pellet and it fired 8 per shot.

    A single spartan can head on charge a group of pirates with his shield raised. He will get about 3 metres away before he does sometimes he even reaches them and gets killed in melee.

    How about a group of Spartans. They can charge across open ground and reach the pirates and cut them all down.

    Pirates aren’t OP. Just learn how to defeat them.



  • Pretty sure this was the first thing everyone learned about DW the moment they played it. I always feel dirty after doing a samurai round. Glad everyone is so focused on the nodachi, maybe they’ll overlook the true overpowered weapon. Anyway, its fairly obvious they have too much armor for how much range, damage, and speed they have. Bring them down to vanguard armor, bam problem solved.


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