First Impressions of Deadliest Warrior's Classes



  • So I’m several hours into the beta now, and I’m having a ton of fun with it. The 6 classes are really wacky to see against each other, and I’ve already been in more ridiculous situations than I have in the year I’ve owned C:MW. Here are my impressions on each of the classes so far.

    Samurai:

    The Samurai is a lot of fun to play, but quite frankly, he’s too good. He has a very large and diverse arsenal, quite frankly TOO large compared to the limited options of most other classes. The ability to play as an archer who is also beastly in close combat isn’t something I’d normally have a problem with, except that the other classes (with the exception of the Knight), don’t have this ability. Not only can the samurai play both close and ranged, he’s a candidate for both the best close AND the best ranged combat.

    Reasonable wishlist: Bow nerfed
    Fantasy wishlist: Give every class as many weapons as the Samurai

    Spartan:

    The Spartan plays more or less how I pictured, but the spears aren’t nearly as strong as I was hoping. I see most people playing with their secondary, which is a shame, because the idea of a spear specialist class is pretty cool. But overall, I think the Spartan is well done.

    Reasonable wishlist: Make the spears more viable
    Fantasy wishlist: None

    Viking:

    Honestly, I find the Viking underwhelming. He’s essentially a C:MW character with a few novelty abilities and the inability to feint. I’d personally like the Viking to go in one of two directions: One option would be to make him a more competitive “normal” class (by reinstating feinting, improving attack damage, etc), as an alternative to the Knight and Samurai. The second option (and my favourite) would be to make him a large battle specialist. Increase his attack damage and give his attacks huge knockback, while leaving feinting out, and you’ll have a proper berzerker. He’d still be pretty bad in a duel, but an angry Viking running into the fray and swinging wildly would be something that we haven’t seen before, and previously hasn’t really been possible in a Chivalry game.

    Reasonable wishlist: Increase knockback dramatically, allow shield to be picked up, allow weapon to be picked off corpses
    Fantasy wishlist: None

    Knight:

    He’s more or less the same guy we know from C:MW. I like his diversity, and the ability to use crossbows is a cool addition. Honestly, the only real fault I can mention is that I find him boring, but that’s just from familiarity, and entirely personal preference. I DO miss the choice of crossbow, though.

    Reasonable wishlist: Import light and heavy crossbow
    Fantasy wishlist: None

    Ninja:

    This is where I feel Torn Banner really dropped the ball. The ninja, as he is now, doesn’t really serve any kind of purpose. I pictured the ninja as an opportunist, but the pirate is much better at that role. I pictured the ninja as the speedy character, but the pirate runs just as quick, and the ninja’s attacks aren’t amazingly fast. His various unique secondaries, which distinguish the ninja from the other classes, also come in very short supply and run out far too quickly. He has access to only one sword, and his staff does absurdly low damage.

    The ninja also has no significant ranged ability, which, given his extremely poor durability, is a real problem. I’m not sure why he doesn’t have a bow, which the historical ninja did use and is extremely well suited for the stealth role the class is intended to fill. The blowgun would be another option, but allowing the ninja access to the same bow the samurai uses is the easiest fix, and I feel it’s very much needed.

    Reasonable wishlist: Bow, reduce metsubushi’s effect on teammates, more ammo on secondaries, reduced fall damage, improved bo, increased movement speed, +50% damage from behind
    Fantasy wishlist: Blowgun, second sword

    Pirate:

    The pirate is an interesting addition, and I think for the most part he works well. His guns are, in my opinion, slightly too random. I would rather they be more accurate and suffer more in range, damage, or reload time, as the large hit radius makes luck a larger factor than I like. That being said, it’s a quirky class, and the randomness of the black powder weapons only adds to that quirkiness.

    Reasonable wishlist: Make guns more reliant on accuracy, maybe reduce effectiveness SLIGHTLY
    Fantasy wishlist: None

    And there you have it, my impressions on C:DW’s 6 classes. I think it’s a cool blend, and while I’m slightly disappointed that 4 out of the 6 are European (Rajput and Apache would have been great), it’s a great basis for some crazy fun in a game.



  • Before this thread goes to shit due to the rank idiocy of the racist comment I’d like to comment that the ninja IS viable. Sprint could be a little quicker. LSD eggs need to be nerfed against everyone (no stun) but that’s already happening. Bostaff does fine damage but the tracers are wrecked atm. Hitting with bostaff butt only does 15% of what the damage should be. Spartan is viable, check tracers. Knight is stronger than the Samurai but without as much diversity and Viking needs an quirk buff but he’s fine otherwise.

    I think they need more weapons. The kind of system they used in MW. The first one was balanced and then you had a quick version that was usually shorter and did less damage and a slow version which was usually slower and did MORE damage. The Katana, Wazakashi and Nodachi would be an example of this. Just do it for ALL weapons to increase diversity.



  • @Jaggsaw:

    how am i being racist?.. because i claim we are better than you?.. you are pulling the race-card defense here dude… shouting racist has been proven to be the easiest and most effective way to win an arguement… i can’t believe you pulled that card…

    did i mention races?.. no i mentioned nationalities… does that make me a nazi too then?..

    Silly people…

    You can use racist in that context, Oh and it has been proven to be the most effective way to win an arguement? Strange I’d like to see some evidence to that statement. :D

    Where you’re born who you’re, have nothing to do with intelligence, There isn’t even a correlation between those things, And by saying that Europeans are therfore more intelligent than Americans and “Better than them” you’re actually discriminating against a broad demographic of people and making largely baseless claims.



  • @Jaggsaw:

    how am i being racist?.. because i claim we are better than you?.. you are pulling the race-card defense here dude… shouting racist has been proven to be the easiest and most effective way to win an arguement… i can’t believe you pulled that card…

    did i mention races?.. no i mentioned nationalities… does that make me a nazi too then?..

    Silly people…

    He’s a nazi too. Get him boys.



  • @SirBlade:

    @Jaggsaw:

    how am i being racist?.. because i claim we are better than you?.. you are pulling the race-card defense here dude… shouting racist has been proven to be the easiest and most effective way to win an arguement… i can’t believe you pulled that card…

    did i mention races?.. no i mentioned nationalities… does that make me a nazi too then?..

    Silly people…

    You can use racist in that context, Oh and it has been proven to be the most effective way to win an arguement? Strange I’d like to see some evidence to that statement. :D

    Where you’re born who you’re, have nothing to do with intelligence, There isn’t even a correlation between those things, And by saying that Europeans are therfore more intelligent than Americans and “Better than them” you’re actually discriminating against a broad demographic of people and making largely baseless claims.

    everything can be used in a ‘context’… and you don’t need to look far and wide to realize that the “racism-card” is an easy “i-win” button… look at politics for example…

    im not discriminating, im defending europeans against OP’s claims that apparently “4/6” people in he’s games are european and that he has a problem with that, which is ridiculous to say the least - i simply said that we’re not as stupid as you guys think we are… and that we might even be smarter than you (for christ sake america would never have been able to fabricate the Atom-bomb (nuke) without a danish guy making a big breakthrough)

    here is the link http://ing.dk/artikel/den-glemte-danske … mbe-158032

    im not trying to wave my epeen around here… im just saying that maybe americans in general are a bit arrogant when it comes to addressing anyone who is not from the states.

    ever heard the term “euro-trash” ?.. im sure you have… that should give you a good indication of what i mean.

    considering everyone who is non-american to be inferior… thats a habit americans really need to get rid of…

    You know. its funny how americans complain about russians and brazillians being dumb and rude, but when everything comes together are americans really that much better at “being nice” ?. most americans i meet in games actually cockfaces 90% of the time, still i love playing with them as they appear more intelligent than the average playerbase… see? i can give you guys a compliment, you could learn alot from that.



  • This is a troll right?



  • @dudeface:

    This is a troll right?

    who me?.. do you really even know what a troll is?.. i am not a troll… i am not trying to provoke you guys with the single intention of getting you mad… which is what a troll does… look at some of ‘BB’'s posts, then compare them to mine… and then call me troll again.



  • Seriously, a topic about the original posters first impressions of this beta, and the first comment he recieved was some uber-nationalistic one about americans not being smart and Poland and Ukraine giving Europe a bad reputation?

    Get on track, people!

    I can’t be arsed to pay any sort of attention to this thread in this state.



  • I am ashamed of being european. Thanks Obama Jaggsaw.



  • @Jaggsaw:

    you got a problem with europeans?.. you do know we are smarter than americans right?.. you might master the english language better than us… but countries like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany and France are more advanced than you would like… its only countries like Poland and Ukraine that gives europeans a bad name… Fact.

    Actually laughed out loud at this.

    He’s not a troll. Just not particularly bright.



  • @Jaggsaw:

    you got a problem with europeans?.. you do know we are smarter than americans right?.. you might master the english language better than us… but countries like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany and France are more advanced than you would like… its only countries like Poland and Ukraine that gives europeans a bad name… Fact.

    First off, I’m Canadian. Second off, you accused me of racism, then immediately said something extremely racist. Thank you, come again.



  • Aaaaaaaand with that, anybody have an actual opinion on Deadliest Warrior?



  • @Mockingbirch:

    Aaaaaaaand with that, anybody have an actual opinion on Deadliest Warrior?

    Enjoying it, Despite all the things that make me wanna chuck my keyboard across the room it’s plenty of fun just can’t wait till my friends get on and play, Ninja teamwork. :D


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