Dual wielding for pirates!



  • Would be nice if pirates could have double wielding ability, using a rapier and a dagger! If u choose that, u can’t have a gun but that would make some pirates not only rely on it! Also, it would be fast but mostly deals piercing dammage, and dagger use would be for alt attacks?



  • @Mgqc:

    Would be nice if pirates could have double wielding ability, using a rapier and a dagger! If u choose that, u can’t have a gun but that would make some pirates not only rely on it! Also, it would be fast but mostly deals piercing dammage, and dagger use would be for alt attacks?

    I actually like this idea, it would allow people on the Pirate team to be melee specialists.



  • This isn’t Assassin’s Creed 4 unfortunately :p
    We have to remember that this is following the DW programme and I don’t think they covered Dual Wielding back then.

    It would be cool, but what benefit would it have? What would Vikings get in return now that Pirates would have the same thing?



  • @Commanderflynn:

    This isn’t Assassin’s Creed 4 unfortunately :p
    We have to remember that this is following the DW programme and I don’t think they covered Dual Wielding back then.

    It would be cool, but what benefit would it have? What would Vikings get in return now that Pirates would have the same thing?

    Vikings already can throw anything, get shields, and faster attacks the longer they are in a combo. So its not like this would remove all of their unique advantages. With that being said, I don’t like the idea of them dual wielding, though I could perhaps agree with them being given faster movement speed again short of sprinting to help them skirmish in melee, without buffing this speed if they choose to reload. Though I guess there’s not much that can be improved on when everyone needs to be at a similar speed.



  • dual wielding isn’t something only viking used?? and i’m not talking about duel wield the same type of attacks, one of the weapon is a dagger, the other a piercing weapon! But mostly, it gives an alternative to gun squad and a new type of game play, they may have low hp but those type of weapons could be unpredictable in a way because daggers attack would be the same as the rapier attacks, and blocking with dagger could be riposte by the rapier or the dagger depending on the attacks u choose



  • It was common practice for any ship crewman from a variety of western navies and pirates in the 18th and 19th century to duel weld a pistole and sword. No hard evidence to suggest they duel welded two melee weapons. Though it wouldn’t be a dagger and rapier. Rapier was a duelling sword that was obsolete by then anyway and what use is a dagger as a military weapon. Sabre, broadsword and cutlass. They were the weapons used.

    Officers had multiple pistoles strapped to him so while boarding duel welding a pistole and sword was very useful and was more flexible than a musket with a bayonet. And since they had multiple pistoles they can fire and discard the pistole and grab another all while engaged in single combat. Crew members did the same though wouldn’t have the luxury of having more than one pistole much. A lot of the crew went Ito battle with ship equipment. British navy regulations required there to be one weapon per man but that wasn’t always kept. The French navy didn’t even have a regulation saying that.

    Pirates would have fought very similar but with more aggressive and scare tactics. And all of them would have weapons at all times. Pirates were essentially anarchists. They could practice when they wanted. Actual navy crews could not. The only trained personal on board were the marines.

    So there may of been duel welding. But with bigger weapons. Not a dainty obsolete rapier or useless dagger. Though there was defiantly duel welding with a gun and a sword as it had vitally no downsides. You didn’t typically use the pistole as a melee weapon though.



  • @Commanderflynn:

    This isn’t Assassin’s Creed 4 unfortunately :p
    We have to remember that this is following the DW programme and I don’t think they covered Dual Wielding back then.

    It would be cool, but what benefit would it have? What would Vikings get in return now that Pirates would have the same thing?

    Historically Vikings didn’t dual wield at all, they used shields if they weren’t using dane axes. Pirates however, especially the ones depicted in the game, would of actually came from the time period where dual wielding was somewhat prevalent in europe (Renaissance period).

    That said I don’t see why pirates can’t have rapiers and parrying daggers. :)



  • Sure, if Pirates are willing to share their magic healing rum



  • Should get rid of that now or replace with something else seeing how fast regen is now.



  • @Wolf.:

    Should get rid of that now or replace with something else seeing how fast regen is now.

    the healing booz is for countering archers
    fast healing is nice, but instant health to archer back is what the booz is for



  • if we were to go for historical accuracy, there shouldn’t be any spears on the battlefield since that was mostly used against cavalry and not much as a melee weapon, Spartans sword would break against most of the other team! Dagger and rapier are use from medieval time to renaissance! But it can be parrying dagger and cutlass I don’t really care! If the pirate could have a gun in one hand and a sword in the other, do you think it should be use like ninja’s shuriken, with an instant throw button? Less ammo, less time to aim and it would be the multiple gun instead of reloading one



  • @BB:

    @Wolf.:

    Should get rid of that now or replace with something else seeing how fast regen is now.

    the healing booz is for countering archers
    fast healing is nice, but instant health to archer back is what the booz is for

    the rum really isn’t needed with the increased HP regen.



  • @Hitom:

    the rum really isn’t needed with the increased HP regen.

    the healing booz is for countering archers
    fast healing is nice, but instant health to archer back is what the booz is for



  • @Mgqc:

    if we were to go for historical accuracy, there shouldn’t be any spears on the battlefield since that was mostly used against cavalry and not much as a melee weapon, Spartans sword would break against most of the other team! Dagger and rapier are use from medieval time to renaissance! But it can be parrying dagger and cutlass I don’t really care! If the pirate could have a gun in one hand and a sword in the other, do you think it should be use like ninja’s shuriken, with an instant throw button? Less ammo, less time to aim and it would be the multiple gun instead of reloading one

    ummmm, I don’t know where you’ve got your information from but this is 100% wrong.

    Spear was the most used weapon on the battlefield until the invention of guns.



  • @Dr:

    @Mgqc:

    if we were to go for historical accuracy, there shouldn’t be any spears on the battlefield since that was mostly used against cavalry and not much as a melee weapon, Spartans sword would break against most of the other team! Dagger and rapier are use from medieval time to renaissance! But it can be parrying dagger and cutlass I don’t really care! If the pirate could have a gun in one hand and a sword in the other, do you think it should be use like ninja’s shuriken, with an instant throw button? Less ammo, less time to aim and it would be the multiple gun instead of reloading one

    ummmm, I don’t know where you’ve got your information from but this is 100% wrong.

    Spear was the most used weapon on the battlefield until the invention of guns.

    Yeah, I’m with the Doc on this one, spears were actually far more common than swords in combat. Makes sense, if I had a choice between getting right up in the face of someone trying to kill me or keeping him at the end of a long shaft, I’m choosing the shaft.

    Get your mind out of the gutter.



  • @Mockingbirch:

    @Dr:

    @Mgqc:

    if we were to go for historical accuracy, there shouldn’t be any spears on the battlefield since that was mostly used against cavalry and not much as a melee weapon, Spartans sword would break against most of the other team! Dagger and rapier are use from medieval time to renaissance! But it can be parrying dagger and cutlass I don’t really care! If the pirate could have a gun in one hand and a sword in the other, do you think it should be use like ninja’s shuriken, with an instant throw button? Less ammo, less time to aim and it would be the multiple gun instead of reloading one

    ummmm, I don’t know where you’ve got your information from but this is 100% wrong.

    Spear was the most used weapon on the battlefield until the invention of guns.

    Yeah, I’m with the Doc on this one, spears were actually far more common than swords in combat. Makes sense, if I had a choice between getting right up in the face of someone trying to kill me or keeping him at the end of a long shaft, I’m choosing the shaft.

    Get your mind out of the gutter.

    Also they were cheap and easy to make. For the price of one sword you could outfit and entire unit with spears and shields. A weapon like a sword requires a lot of high grade steel and the smith would be an expert, however a spear head is easy to beat out of iron by any village blacksmith.

    The idea of “spears=good vs. cavalry only” is more of a computer game thing.



  • Javelin and shorter spear maybe, but not the huge pole arm we get, that was mainly the frontlines



  • Wood is wood. Ain’t hard to find. Most kinds of wood are pretty strong.

    Long spears wouldn’t be hard to make either.

    Yes spears were better against cavalry than a sword was. But they were cheap and good against any other bugger that you came up against.



  • Historically Vikings didn’t dual wield at all, they used shields if they weren’t using dane axes. Pirates however, especially the ones depicted in the game, would of actually came from the time period where dual wielding was somewhat prevalent in europe (Renaissance period).

    Thank you! I don’t know why TB has taken it upon themselves to bastardize everything, granted DW did half of the job for them… (most of the alleged experts aren’t) TB has just decided to go the extra mile off road. If they did stick to any semblance of history the game would be balanced. It’s however still in development so we can cross our fingers… that would however mean that the pirate would have NO armor which would make up for their guns.

    Deadliest Warrior wasn’t a great game but it was somewhat better balanced (any class could beat the other; albeit with some difficulty for others).



  • Uninstall Chivalry now. Pirates already are the best ranged class… fuck outta here trying to make them the best melee/ranged class.


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