Samurai is still way too OP



  • @Mgqc:

    Samurai is indeed OP since flinch isn’t as reliable as it should! So hit trading occur way more often then it should, making the class with better armor and dammage stronger in a fight!

    don’t mind BB, all he does is post condescending stuff while defending the thing that (I guess) make him kill people, as long as it makes u win it doesn’t need a fix ? I can take a samurai as a spartan anytime but still I wouldn’t say they need the same level of skills to handle!

    Samurai are just the easiest class to use because they have speed, they have reach, they have armor, they have a pretty decent ranged weapon and they got dammage! While spartan gets good dammage, a decent reach (mostly with sarissa) but only with spear attack since shield bash need a really close range to hit and sarrisa doesn’t much different attacks…they got shield but its way slower than blocking with a weapon, yes it can hold it but you’ll just get stun from kicks! Spartan got not much of a good ranged weapon since he got to use it in melee, still hurts but throwing your main weapon isn’t always the best choice! I think spartan could beat samurai if they really stick in tight groups but hard to do that in pub games!

    Yknow it’s odd, but I don’t find samurai too tough to beat. For whatever reason, Knights are really hard for me unless I’m either Samurai or knight. Can’t put my finger on it though.

    Either way, I think Samurai is fine. I hit trade with them less and I have flinched them a bunch too thanks to this patch.



  • @Mgqc:

    Samurai is indeed OP since flinch isn’t as reliable as it should!

    there’s nothing wrong with flinch
    but I’ll humor you, what is wrong with flinch?



  • @BB:

    @adamcel6:

    M1 spam works in a huge brawl against anyone.

    … I wasn’t aware you’re forced to fight in huge brawls

    Then you’ve never played the freakin game.



  • @BB:

    @adamcel6:

    M1 spam works in a huge brawl against anyone.

    … I wasn’t aware you’re forced to fight in huge brawls

    Then you’ve never played the freakin game.



  • @adamcel6:

    @BB:

    @adamcel6:

    M1 spam works in a huge brawl against anyone.

    … I wasn’t aware you’re forced to fight in huge brawls

    Then you’ve never played the freakin game.

    apparently



  • I don’t think adamcel6 knows what the S key does.



  • Nah Samurai isn’t bad with the extended wind up times now. Being a Spartan vs them its about breaking the distance gap. Once you do that you have a fair fight. I will say however, I don’t understand why we’re the same speed as them but whatever.



  • @lemonater47:

    I don’t think adamcel6 knows what the S key does.

    What is your point here? Is it better to leave your team to be slaughtered?



  • If the Samurai is OP, I wonder what that makes the knight. The crossbow is straight up better. Easier to hit with, relatively quick reload time.

    In MW, a squad of archers with crossbows is a huge pain in the ass. When you get to them though, the fight changes completely. Most of the time.

    In DW, if a squad of Knights pull the same shit, it’s a pain in the ass. When you get to them though, they’re still a pain in the ass.



  • @omg87:

    If the Samurai is OP, I wonder what that makes the knight. The crossbow is straight up better. Easier to hit with, relatively quick reload time.

    In MW, a squad of archers with crossbows is a huge pain in the ass. When you get to them though, the fight changes completely. Most of the time.

    In DW, if a squad of Knights pull the same shit, it’s a pain in the ass. When you get to them though, they’re still a pain in the ass.

    In DW the knight’s crossbow has only 5 un-pickupable bolts to fire.

    However, it is still an huge pain in the ass when they do what you described, but team effort is close to nil in most matches.



  • The yumi bow needs two headshots to kill a pirate. I call that underpowered. It should be buffed enough to at least one shot headshot a pirate.



  • @adamcel6:

    @omg87:

    If the Samurai is OP, I wonder what that makes the knight. The crossbow is straight up better. Easier to hit with, relatively quick reload time.

    In MW, a squad of archers with crossbows is a huge pain in the ass. When you get to them though, the fight changes completely. Most of the time.

    In DW, if a squad of Knights pull the same shit, it’s a pain in the ass. When you get to them though, they’re still a pain in the ass.

    In DW the knight’s crossbow has only 5 un-pickupable bolts to fire.

    However, it is still an huge pain in the ass when they do what you described, but team effort is close to nil in most matches.

    That’s actually incorrect. You can pick up crossbow bolts.



  • @lemonater47:

    The yumi bow needs two headshots to kill a pirate. I call that underpowered. It should be buffed enough to at least one shot headshot a pirate.

    Buff ranged weapons! Yay!



  • @lemonater47:

    It should be buffed enough to at least one shot headshot a pirate.

    Yumi fires as fast as the longbow, that’s not really necesary

    and no, longbow doesn’t 1 headshot archers either



  • Personally, I think Samurai only have one real problem, that being that all of their weapons are incredibly fast considering damage and reach. They easily have all of the best weapons in the game.
    I’m aware this is supposed to be balanced by them lacking a real gimmick, and that them having amazing weapons IS their gimmick, but most of the gimmicks are, well, gimmicky, and aren’t as effective as simply having amazing weapons and stats.

    I also think Spartans are incredibly effective, second only to samurai, but that’s just my playstyle talking.



  • @BB:

    @lemonater47:

    It should be buffed enough to at least one shot headshot a pirate.

    Yumi fires as fast as the longbow, that’s not really necesary

    and no, longbow doesn’t 1 headshot archers either

    Well with broadheads it does.

    Still I don’t think anyone would mind too much if the damage was increased slightly to headshot pirates.



  • @lemonater47:

    Well with broadheads it does.

    And Sams will be able to 1 shot Pirates when those get added
    @lemonater47:

    Still I don’t think anyone would mind too much if the damage was increased slightly to headshot pirates.

    Pirates would



  • whats wrong? i’d say flinch need to work a little further in the wind up



  • @Mgqc:

    whats wrong? i’d say flinch need to work a little further in the wind up

    flinch works all throughout windup



  • @Sol:

    @adamcel6:

    @omg87:

    If the Samurai is OP, I wonder what that makes the knight. The crossbow is straight up better. Easier to hit with, relatively quick reload time.

    In MW, a squad of archers with crossbows is a huge pain in the ass. When you get to them though, the fight changes completely. Most of the time.

    In DW, if a squad of Knights pull the same shit, it’s a pain in the ass. When you get to them though, they’re still a pain in the ass.

    In DW the knight’s crossbow has only 5 un-pickupable bolts to fire.

    However, it is still an huge pain in the ass when they do what you described, but team effort is close to nil in most matches.

    That’s actually incorrect. You can pick up crossbow bolts.

    Well I can’t.


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