Archers - the most annoying class in the game ever.



  • So annoying. They are literally the most OP thing in the game. Unlimited ranged attacks and then when you get in close they have the fastest freaking weapon in the game that is damn near impossible to block + you need 2 swings with 2 handed sword to kill them.

    Am I just bad or they are overpowered as hell?



  • @bulletskater:

    Am I just bad or they are overpowered as hell?

    I very biased question. Lets just say they are probably not as strong as you believe…



  • @bulletskater:

    most OP thing in the game.

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    Unlimited ranged attacks

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    fastest freaking weapon

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    impossible to block

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    need 2 swings with 2 handed sword to kill them.

    @bulletskater:

    Am I just bad



  • @Sniperyeti:

    @bulletskater:

    most OP thing in the game.

    @bulletskater:

    Unlimited ranged attacks

    @bulletskater:

    fastest freaking weapon

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    impossible to block

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    need 2 swings with 2 handed sword to kill them.

    @bulletskater:

    Am I just bad

    LOL best comment NA

    Edit: or New Zealand :P



  • Dont let the trolls get to ya. As an overall class they are totally OP because of the 1 shot range ability on every class depending on load out. And yes they have the second fastest melee in the game. They can be a little crunchy and get one shot melee wise by maybe 2 classes consistently but upper level archers have no fear of any class either ranged or up close. Too many times I see an archer take on a knight and win in melee. They are virtually an MAA without the dodge but they get back stab bonus and since you have to hit the back to get around a parry they get lots of bonus for doing what we all do. even more disturbing is that they can parry anything without damage. I have far too many posts about archers melee making them OP. The problem is that the average archer is just not that good so they just are annoying at best. The upper level archers are close to impossible to kill and have no problem ending in the top 5 at the end of every map.



  • Dont worry. Once you get close to those guys. You can well….

    Stomp their heads in.



  • Yes there’s a massive difference between skill levels of archers. In most pubs most of archers are noobs. There are different types of archers. This excludes those with javelins.

    Noob archers: Can’t aim, no tactical awareness usually, shoots team mates and can’t fight in melee or they run away.

    Sharpshooter: Usually at a distance and has good aim or good tactical awareness though once again they aren’t great in melee and some of them do still run. These are usually low ranked archers who enjoy ranged combat and have learnt the arrow speed and drop off for a particular bow.

    Melee archer: A lot closer to the front lines and they even have warbows and crossbows. They mat it be the best at aiming but they stand closer as they are good in melee and being close up means its usually more likely to hit enemies even though their aim isn’t the greatest. If anyone does come up to them they know how to handles themselves. They mostly take damage from their team mates. Best way to kill them is to hope some over eager vanguard comes to “help” them.

    All-rounder: Knows how to aim at range usually better than sharpshooters and have the same melee abilities as melee archers. They can often support noob and sharpshooter archers by standing with them and repelling anyone that disturbs the group of archers. You usually don’t get this archer in pubs. But in a pub its these guys who can carry a whole team. These guys are also great at taking out the melee archers.

    In competitive play you pretty much get all melee and all-rounder archers.

    A melee archer is very good against a vanguard or knight. Or a person who plays MAA like a vanguard and knight. A good MAA will often beat an archer in melee. And too melee archers fighting in melee is the longest fight in history.

    Most people are too confident when attacking archers in melee as most of them suck. But then hey run Ito one that doesn’t suck. They run in windup and next second they are dead and the archer doesn’t have a scratch in him.

    Running in and trying to attack from range is a bad idea. As you are rushing towards the archers he’s often running towards you. You windup and he stabs you quickly flinching your attack and he carries on comboing you. Sometimes they pause for a bit so they hit you in between your parries. Most people panic by this stage. Even if you have parried him you have probably lost half your health by this stage. He will continue to riposte you. You might land a hit on him but he will probably beat you.

    Charging as a vanguard doesn’t work much either.

    Also many archers are good at conserving their stamina as well. Though some aren’t. So if you can play defensively long enough he’s likely to run out of stamina before you. Most of them back off to get some stamina back.

    They can also afford to miss and combo into which tricks many.

    If you are facing as archer don’t rush in and try attacking first. As an archer myself I hate it when they walk up to me wanting me to attack first. As they are on full health and a player who’s smart enough to do that is usually a good player anyway. It turns into more or less a fair fight.

    Kicking them often works as most of them rely on ripostes. So if you parry and kick instead of attacking you will usually catch them off guard. At the moment kicking costs them stamina too and your next attack will deal a bigger stamina hit. Its one way of getting rid of a chunk off their stamina.

    Also group fights. No one really likes archers too much so some team mates couldn’t care less if they hit a friendly archer. So if an archer gets involved in group fights he’s liable to be killed by his team mates. Even though not directly. It puts them off their stride. Some even forget where they are and turn around.

    Throwing smoke at archers is better then throwing smoke in the ground. Especially when the archer is one. Wall or hiding behind something. They have to waste they time to move. People who know how to use smoke right are really annoying. Especially when there are 3 bloody vanguards doing it. Throwing smoke on objectives is a good move too.

    Using a shield will often give you immunity it you have shieldless team mates around the place. I will never try aiming for the guy with the shield if there’s a bunch of vanguards around.

    Your own archers are probably the best against enemy archers. You only need one good archer with a heavy crossbow or warbow to go anti archer. There’s no harm in saying in the team chat “hey we need someone to go anti archer”. One archer can take out many archers on the defending team. I like going anti archer. You also get more kills usually. Those noob archers take their toll on your team but they are brilliant at standing still and getting shot.

    So there’s my essay on archers from a melee archer. It doesn’t go over everything. And probably has errors because iPhone autocorrect is evil.



  • Overpowered? I’ll leave it to smarter people than me to debate that question.

    Annoying as all hell? Without a fucking doubt.



  • You mean best class eva!



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  • so i says to mable, i says……i jus love making archer heads explode with a maul…but they can be tricky. i agree, though, i think i detest archers too.



  • Most single archers (at least in pub games) don’t present a problem and aren’t too annoying. My main issue is that you can get upwards of 60% of players on a single team in a pub server play archer. While that usually makes them all fail the objective it also makes winning the objective no fun. Run around, duck behind something, get hit with very little you can do about it, etc. and just zerg rush the objective.

    If you’re on the team with 60% archers you’re constantly getting hit in the back, but not flinched (because It’s a teammate archer who is trying to shoot the guy you’re engaged in melee with). Great, so you’re down in melee because you have too many archers, and they’re working against you most of the time.

    The worst is Dark Forrest with a huge archer team. They don’t approach the cart, they just sit back and shoot at those defending the cart and the cart never moves.

    And I have a personal hatred for javelin archers mostly. “Oh I like to go up on two guys fighting and shoot the enemy in the back or side with an unblockable from 3 feet away because I’m good.”

    Don’t even get me started on dueling archers.



  • DOWN WITH ARCHERS!

    i always forget to take my gold helmet off when playing MW, but i will never take it off… so archers will continue to shoot my face off. I noticed though in an experiment i get shot with significantly less arrows when i take it off, but it’s still the #1 things to kill me. For every 1 melee death i take, i’ll get killed by 5 archers, at least. It’s definitely annoying.

    The issue is they’re the easiest class to pick up and just chill and shoot at shit if you’re not great at melee, a lot of the archers aren’t as good in melee when you get close to them, IF you get close to them. So in pubs, there’s typically at least 6-7 archers on a team per 24 man server, more in 32 man. If there were only a few archers it’s not as much of a hassle, but the issue is there’s always a TON of them.



  • @clayton-bigsby:

    DOWN WITH ARCHERS!

    i always forget to take my gold helmet off when playing MW, but i will never take it off… so archers will continue to shoot my face off.

    Ya know, I keep forgetting about that. I recently thought archers were just annihilating everyone evenly, but I bet they’re all aiming at my easy-to-see head. Lol, good for the rest of the team, I guess…



  • Lemon i must say that your post was great and well explained,good job man.
    Btw i must say that as an archer my corpse get abused in many different ways when i die,vanguards love to chop my head off,MAA tbag me and use the laughing chat command.
    All people say that they hate archers, but you need us! muahahahahsvdsfdsaofdsagh



  • @AndreaTheArcher:

    Lemon i must say that your post was great and well explained,good job man.
    Btw i must say that as an archer my corpse get abused in many different ways when i die,vanguards love to chop my head off,MAA tbag me and use the laughing chat command.
    All people say that they hate archers, but you need us! muahahahahsvdsfdsaofdsagh

    Actually, no we dont need archers, only in scrims are they truly valuable but in pubs they are more annoying than anything for all the above reasons. This is why we have a 3 archer cap on our 24 man |?i??| Thunderdome servers.

    But even in scrims, specially in LTS it almost always comes down to the last players alive are archers. Watching archers try and shoot each other across the map or melee each other is like watching paint dry.



  • The hate against Archers indicates that they are in a good spot. Most arguments boil down to “I don’t want this guy to have the option to shoot me from afar!” or “I hate getting shot and not being able to shoot back” - which is exactly how it is supposed to be.

    Seriously: If people would suddenly stop crying about Archers and calling them “op” that would a good sign of Archers being completely underpowered and useless.

    If you want keep playing on your “Gentlemen’s Club” servers - I prefer having more options (no stupid class limits) because its more versatile and fun.



  • I used to hate archers and hunt them down as vanguard, which was easy enough. Now I play light xbow most of the time because I am an asshole. Front line archering. Racking up up assists with xbow and kills with sabre.



  • I hate running a mile toward the objective only to die to that infamous sound of an arrow piercing my skin. I hate being on the winning side of a lengthy melee fight only to have my head randomly explode. I hate that blocking a maul with a tiny dagger has the same effect as blocking a tiny dagger with a maul. I hate many things about archers, but I can’t honestly say they’re OP. It’s just annoying as hell.



  • @dudeface:

    I used to hate archers and hunt them down as vanguard, which was easy enough. Now I play light xbow most of the time because I am an asshole. Front line archering. Racking up up assists with xbow and kills with sabre.


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