[INFORMATION] Playing on officials & Dealing with Violations



  • **INFORMATION
    Playing on the Official Servers & Dealing with violations
    As many here know and some even consider quite alright the chivalry official servers are often a host to a-lot of bad conduct. Anything from bad language to bullying and trolling of other players as well as even hacking or exploiting. - We aim to service you the players in a manner that would be fun for you and hosting over a hundred servers worldwide is part of that aim. However, since we are a community of players this specific portion of the service you receive is also in many ways your responsibility.

    I’ve compiled this thread to help clarify some questions I had received about the server rules from player as well as explain certain situations people frequently encounter while playing on the official servers and how to deal with them. With that said, I hope people will take to practice what is written here so we could improve our conduct online as a game community.

    Server Rules
    On this portion I will try to explain the written server rules so players will not have any mistake on what is or what isn’t a violation. It is important to note that while these server rules exist in a written manner it is up to the individual server administrator on how to deal with violation of the rules.
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    Server Rules] It is at the discretion of the server admin in game whether or not he/she will take action against you and the duration of the ban. An admin may kick/ban you for any liable and valid reason even if it’s not listed above if you are affecting other players and gameplay.

    I’m going to go ahead and assume everyone here is of age to know why there are server rules at all.

    But lets talk about the servers first.
    There are over a hundred game servers. The majority of the official servers are public and are hosted worldwide! Anywhere from North America to Europe and even Oceania. Yes there are still areas in the world where server are not hosted. I happen to live in one of these areas and yet I manage to find a place to play regardless. Please consider that these servers allow you to play the game freely. Without having to worry about monthly rent cost. You can log in at any time and join one of these. And these servers will always be there to play
    I found that some people decide that because the servers are there, and because they are free, they should be considered as a public urinal. But the truth is that most people cannot afford the monthly subscription to host a server or doesn’t have the interest. Please take a moment to consider the costs of up-keeping a personal server and respect the fact that they are given to you free of charge.
    You would like to have a clean fun game- so in that turn you must always remember to make it available to others. I feel that currently people are having the “Someone else will pick it up” mentality, which is why the public servers look the way they do.

    Sure the servers are not hosted on the best host in the world. I personally do not like Multiplay and have experience with it being less than excellent. But the servers are still free, and they are playable, even if a little laggy.

    With that said- lets go over the specific server rules here…

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    Server Rules]* Exploiting: Map exploiting or exploits such as “flying” or “superjump” that deliberately and knowingly is used by the player to gain an advantage.
    Many people have varied definitions for 'Exploit". And all of these personal individual definitions are correct on their own term. However, when regarding the official server rules and the official point of view on exploits they denote specifically of abuse of level/map positions that are not meant to be used (For example: The Agatha spawn house on Darkforest, The rocks on the archer hill in Moor or the Agatha secured area on the last stage of Citadel). When a player enters/climbs/hides in one of these they are exploiting the map. Another form of exploit are maneuvers like the Man at Arms super jump or playing with any configured INI that would give an unfair advantage (such as setting your FOV to over 120) This counts as exploiting the game.
    It is important to state here that using any load out selection, feints, drags and kicks are not considered as exploits. These are valid play-style techniques and such would not be handled as exploits because anyone has the right to fight in any way they like and with whatever weapon they choose.

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    > Server Rules]*   Griefing: Someone who deliberately irritates and harasses other players for their own enjoyment.
    >     Griefers or Trolls, as they are known at the 21st century, are quite common on the internet. Now more than ever with the re-establishment of Trolling as a positive. This is not the case and while Trolling your friend is funny because you're friends a-lot of people forget that they aren't friends with everyone and that other people would not like to be trolled, or griefed.
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    >     What is griefing? Here are some examples of griefing:
    >     o A player who will deliberately kick/bleed another specific player at the beginning of each round.
    >     o A player who would continue to insult another player for their choice of play-style / load out after the other player dies.
    >     o A group of players who would go out of their way to track a specific player down and ruin their game by TK or other means.
    >     o The guy who kicks the back of the archer who chooses to shoot from spawn.
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    >     While this may be valid and funny between friends- it is mostly not the case with strangers. Some people do not appreciate this course of action and rather play the game their way rather than your way. **Respect** this, do not grief them for their choice. Even if you do not agree with it. You think they are doing something wrong? Say so on chat.
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    >     > Server Rules]*   Intentional TK'ing: Constantly killing your teammates on purpose for no reason.
    >     >     "I have a reason, its funny!" - While Chivalry can be a hilarious game to play with all the voice over commands and the heads flying around- some people take it too far. TK, or Team Killing has always been a rather flimsy portion of the gameplay, in my opinion largely due to some players being indifferent and ignorant of what qualifies as an intentional team-kill. It is important to constantly ask yourself- did this person really do this on purpose? Or maybe it was an honest accident and they were trying to help me? Use your common sense, ask about it in chat. If you happen to team kill, take the time to apologize once you're out in the clear again.
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    >     >     ADDENDUM:
    >     >     Remember to check the scoreboard. While the votekick might say 100% Team Damage, it might have been done so on the start of the match by accident. A player who has actually team killed another player would have a negative score on the board.
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    >     >     > Server Rules]*   Spamming Chat: Spamming the text chat with useless banter.*   Mic spamming: Getting on voice and spamming with music, sounds and other nonsense.
    >     >     >     Spamming in general is very common knowledge to us internet people. It is when somebody is putting input which has nothing to do with what's going on. Either advertising or simply being annoying. Spamming is a no-go on the chivalry servers. And this includes spamming your awful polka on voice chat too. There is a time and place for everything but playing on chivalry is not that.
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    >     >     >     This is no way applies to any thoughtful discussions about the game, of course! Even though I don't really understand why you would rather have it in a game than on the forums! Share your opinions here.
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    >     >     >     > Server Rules]*   Abusing votekick: Consistently votekicking players after one TK or for no reason. Votekicking players for being good is not a reason to votekick. You must have a valid reason.
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    >     >     >     >     But what is a valid reason? - Well, lets look at what isn't a valid reason:
    >     >     >     >     o The other player killed obliterated me and I am butt hurt.
    >     >     >     >     o I just joined this game and somebody on my team team killed me. Of course I will not ask if it was intentional or not.
    >     >     >     >     o I do not like the techniques this player is using.
    >     >     >     >     o I do not like the load out this player chose to play with.
    >     >     >     >     o I do not like the class this player chose.
    >     >     >     >     o This player is from a clan I hate.
    >     >     >     >     o This player has different opinions than me.
    >     >     >     >     o I think it will be funny. (Also griefing)
    >     >     >     >     o This player is complaining about my play style or choice of load out or class.
    >     >     >     >     **o This player is abusing the vote-kick.**
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    >     >     >     >     And here is what is a valid reason:
    >     >     >     >     o I think this player is hacking.
    >     >     >     >     o This player is exploiting the map or the game.
    >     >     >     >     o This player is spamming.
    >     >     >     >     o This player is griefing.
    >     >     >     >     o This player is TKing.
    >     >     >     >     o This player is bullying on the chat.
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    >     >     >     >     "But wait user! You said its not valid to votekick somebody who is abusing the vote kick! This makes no sense at all!" - It actually does. By votekicking someone who is abusing the vote kick you are multiplying the issue by creating more votekicks and eventually you are ruining your own game.
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    >     >     >     >     > Server Rules]*   Racism & persistent bullying: Calling people names in a derogatory fashion is not allowed. Using racism and persistent bullying to attack another person(s) will result in being banned.
    >     >     >     >     >     Bullying is something which is also very frequent online and is often on par with Trolling. I would like to make a clear difference here by being specific about what Bullying means:
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    >     >     >     >     >     o A person who is being verbally abusive on chat.
    >     >     >     >     >     o A person who is being racist on chat.
    >     >     >     >     >     o A person who is looking to pick up any other kind of verbal fights in chat.
    >     >     >     >     >     Is a bully!
    >     >     >     >     >     But additionally;
    >     >     >     >     >     o A griefer who follows you around servers to keep griefing on you
    >     >     >     >     >     Is also a bully.
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    >     >     >     >     >     Bullying other players is not OK. If you are being bullied by someone report it so we can deal with this person and migrate this type of player from our servers. It should be pretty much common knowledge that bullying is bad as I believe we are adults here and well past our teen years. Despite this there are still some people who have not yet joined us or for some reason chose to violate the rules in this manner and they should be dealt with. While ignoring a bully is a solution it is not the best solution. Report them when you see them.
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    >     >     >     >     >     > Server Rules]*   High Ping/Lagging: When you have an abnormally high ping and are lagging around the servers, it affects gameplay and other users. We all get lag spikes every so often, so I suggest if you are having an issue with lagging, stop playing for a moment and see if your ping will go back to normal. While there are no max ping rules on official servers, admins do have the right to come in and take action if your high ping is consistent and affecting gameplay for more than 5 minutes.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     This is perhaps the most important rule to discuss as it is the one most controversial. There is no official max ping rule. Which means that a player who joins the server with 600 ms is still legal. Yet, playing with someone who is teleporting around is not very fun either.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     Some things to consider:
    >     >     >     >     >     >     1\. Chivalry runs on TCP-IP just like any other modern game these days. Which means that the person with the higher ms is at a disadvantage to the player with the lower ms ping.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     2\. The official servers are hosted in a large section of the virtual world (Europe, North American and Oceania) but not everywhere and some players are from outside Europe, North America and Oceania.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     3\. Player de-sync with the server occurs at the 400+ ms mark in which case the game becomes unplayable. (Don't believe me? Play through an African proxy.)
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     With this in mind consider that you could be in the same shoes of that player with a higher ping. Would you like to be told to pike off just because your ping is slightly higher? I doubt it. And while the solution for you would be going to somewhere that has a low ping for me- some people do not have that option. I am a good example with the lowest ping I get being 90-120 on European servers (which are closest geographically to my location) So what does this mean? - It means that you should use discretion and consider that this might be the server with the best ping for that specific person. Who like you, would like to enjoy chivalry online.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     There are also cases of players who join servers with the deliberate goal of playing while de-synced. So where is the solution here? - Voting to kick a high-ping player is fine. But use your head. A player with upto 200 ms is not de-syncing yet. A player with 600 is. **Communicate**, get their attention on chat and divert it towards their ping issue that you are experiencing. Remember, the player with the higher ping has an incredibly smaller time range to respond than you do. If you experience players who deliberately join with 400+ ping, call an admin if you cannot vote-kick them off successfully, or if you notice they do so repeatedly.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     > Server Rules]*   Advertising: Do not advertise your websites, other server hosts, porn sites, etc. ((You MAY announce about an upcoming tournament, contest or event that pertains to Chivalry and only once per map.))
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     This is pretty straightforward. But just in case, here are things you may advertise on the servers:
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     o Your new clan and how you're looking for members.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     o Being open to train new players!
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     o Having a tournament or contest.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     o Posting something on the forum with a link to your thread.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Remember though, only put the advertisement once every map. (Usually it would be a good idea to do it at the end of the round)
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     > Server Rules]*   Hacking: This will get you automatically placed on the global ban list. Help yourself and others by not hacking/cheating. You get no warnings and no temp bans. If caught hacking/cheating, you will be permanently banned.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Finally this is the most obvious rule. But still good to discuss.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Hacking is obviously using external software that changes your settings and applies them to the game session. Anything from speed and animation hacks to pinging the server to DDOS it or other players are considered HACKING and will be dealt with.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Think you found a hacker? - We would rather you report it to us than vote-kick them. Since it would solve more. (you can do it here: [http://steamcommunity.com/groups/chivadmins](http://steamcommunity.com/groups/chivadmins))
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     **Dealing with Violators**
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     And now for the important portion of this post- How do I deal with somebody who is violating the rules?
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     A-lot of people like to take the enforcing into their own hand. Which is fine, on their own server- and while vote-kicking is enabled on the official servers to help you moderate your own game from violators we also expect you to use this function in a responsible manner.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Lets start with vote kicking.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     If you believe someone has violated the rules to a degree that makes them liable to be removed, call a vote! You can do this by holding down **TAB** and then clicking B to toggle the scoreboard, at this point you can use your **MOUSE** to click that specific player's name and then the 'Vote Kick' button below. This will initialize a vote on the server.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     If your vote is successful Great! But if it is not do not vote again! - This is vote spamming. Respect the server you play on and the other players. If they do not want to kick the person they would vote against it. And if they do they will vote for it. By calling an additional vote you have now become a violator yourself and are liable for being kicked too.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     "But that guy keeps killing/bleeding/insulting me!" - That is not fine. But you need to be the bigger person. If the server does not want to kick that person, and nobody else will call that vote to remove them- leave the server. - There are over 100 servers you can play on. Leaving the server won't make you a coward or a loser. If anything it is an excellent test to see if that person is bullying you by following you around to the next server you're on.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     If you are too proud to leave the server, call an admin. We are present on the [Official Server Admin](http://steamcommunity.com/groups/chivadmins) group which you can join on steam and then go on the chat of to talk to one of us. Remember that there might not always be an admin online, so leaving the server first to play elsewhere will be the better option.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     "But User, I am playing with a bunch of friends on that server! I don't want to leave it just because this person is TKing/Bleeding/Insulting me!" - In this case I can only say that if you are playing with friends they should be able to help you vote-kick the violator by posting votes themselves. Just remember that just because you are a group and they can all pitch in, does not make it legal to make it into a cycle of vote-kicks, and in doing so you and your friends will be in violation of the server rules.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     "This is ridiculous! I shouldn't leave the servers, and nor should my friends just because this guy ignores the rules!" - This is true but as is the server admins are not always on as we are doing this voluntarily and each have their own lives, jobs, families (too) and other interests. Be the bigger person. Don't stoop to their level. If anything it would work to your benefit in the long run if that person will peruse harassing you.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Moving on to, Gathering evidence!
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Evidence are a crucial matter, but a screenshot doesn't always cut it. Remember that besides taking a screenshot or a video you should also pull that player's steam profile URL. To do this you must first log onto your steam account via a web browser (my choice is Chrome).
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Once you've logged into your steam account and hover over your profile link on the top menu. Mine says "User" and has a little blue text above it that says 'New" - This will open a drop down menu and you want to select "Friends" from that menu. Once the friends menu is open you will see there are a few tabs- one of those tabs would say "Recently Played With". Click that.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Now that the recently played with tab is loaded you could easily find the person who you wanted to report on that list. **assuming of course that you haven't waited another 6 rounds to report them.**
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Make sure you remember to close your application before doing this because steam would not update your recently played with before you close your game!
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Once you find the player you wanted to report to an admin click his name and that will take you to his website version of the profile. The most important part here is the link. EVEN IF THE PROFILE IS PRIVATE, copy the link and give that to a server admin.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     **REPORT REPORT & REPORT**
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     This is not the 1980s and snitching isn't taboo. Our goal here is to make **YOUR** experience fun and enjoyable but we will have a way easier time if you, the players, will help us locate and deal with these violators who do not respect us or this game.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     If you witness hackers, spammers, griefers and/or bullies. Jump on the server admin chat and tell us about it. As fact- alot of players right now go on the forums to post some angry thread about how this and that happened to them on the official servers and how its BS and should be taken care of.
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     But what are you gonna do about it? - They never bother going on the server admin chat and report it in the first place.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     So if you really care about the state of the servers and would like to clean it up from these kind of players and make it so Chivalry is regarded as a game with a great fun-loving community who enjoys gaming and not nonsense- start reporting. We are here **for you.** And to ensure that **your time** playing the game is the most enjoyable.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Help us make this happen. Even if you are not yourself the admin, you have the right to enjoy the game.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     So- Thanks for reading this post. I hope that it cleared up some issues and questions I've been seeing on the servers regarding the rules and how to deal with violators. Once again, the server admin chat is always open for you to come in, even if you don't want to report anyone.
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    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     Sincerely,
    >     >     >     >     >     >     >     ~User.
    

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