Do you think that Archers should be nerfed?



  • yes……


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    @LTTLWLF:

    Thread was necro’d in remembrance of the great archer buff of 2014. RIP warbow broads, lest we forget.

    The great archer buff. The best thing that could of happened


  • Global Moderator

    @LTTLWLF:

    Thread was necro’d in remembrance of the great archer buff of 2014. RIP warbow broads, lest we forget.

    The great archer buff. The best thing that could of happened



  • I’m surprised that all of you veteran players are still gagging for archer nurfs. I never had a problem with them. The other classes have always had their own ways of circumventing archers….



  • @OBI-WAN:

    The Greatsword thread is going fairly well and a good amount of people have voted so I thought I’d make a thread about archers since I’ve been seeing a lot of people saying they should be nerfed.

    I think they have too much damage overall personally. In age of chivalry if I can remember right, your arrows did more damage if they hit a target from a longer distance away, and they did less damage the closer the target was. This is good because it encourages you to stay at range. I think that you would also take damage from parrying large 2 handed weapons which is also good because it encourages you to stay at range, where you should be as an archer I think. An archer should be no match for a vanguard or knight or even man at arms in close range and yet they kind of are.

    I think these were both good mechanics that could work in chivalry but this is all of course just my OPINION. Vote in the poll and let me know what you guys think about archers in this thread.
    What are your reasons for/against an archer nerf?

    You say your previous thread is going well and but, as optimistic as I am, I still have to admit that despite you speaking of this with high hopes I really do not expect TBS to make any changes to chivalry based on any threads made by anyone. But hey, 3 years lafter the games release removed first hit flinch whilst still overlooking bullshit like vanguard charges, ridiculous turnspeed caps and various other things that people actually wanted changed. So what can you expect from TBS eh? If you ask me, nothing good. Unless you like paying more money to a dead game to wear a silly looking cosmetic item.



  • In my opninion. They are balanced. They shoot you from half way across the map. It is an “archer” for a fekin reason. How is archery looked down upon when some one can perform a bol0nced m0l drag and one hit you? The drags take even less skill.

    I don’t see how some one shooting you is looked down upon when it is playing a ranged class. Something it is supposed to do. Or some vanguard de syncing through your parry with a zwei hander.

    “Archers are too quick”

    Nein, heard of a secondary? I mean you may even pop in a quick feint to slay the archer. They are running away? Your own throwables? Chase mechanic?!?!?

    People are annoyed of dying and this is a ripe source. They say “I would have been so epic there if that fekin archer didn’t shoot me” People are making excuses for them dying and want a self contained epic moment wrecking noobs CoughFree User Cough

    Any nerf to archers would destroy the class. Some people main it you know? That is like Torn Banner nerfing knights because they are “annoying” and do too much “damage”

    BUT HARULD. KN0IGHT SUPPOSED 2 DO DAT.

    Well. A fucking heavy Bolt travelling at like 20mph going straight in your head. :/

    Case closed.



  • @King:

    In my opninion. They are balanced. They shoot you from half way across the map. It is an “archer” for a fekin reason. How is archery looked down upon when some one can perform a bol0nced m0l drag and one hit you? The drags take even less skill.

    I don’t see how some one shooting you is looked down upon when it is playing a ranged class. Something it is supposed to do. Or some vanguard de syncing through your parry with a zwei hander.

    “Archers are too quick”

    Nein, heard of a secondary? I mean you may even pop in a quick feint to slay the archer. They are running away? Your own throwables? Chase mechanic?!?!?

    People are annoyed of dying and this is a ripe source. They say “I would have been so epic there if that fekin archer didn’t shoot me” People are making excuses for them dying and want a self contained epic moment wrecking noobs CoughFree User Cough

    Any nerf to archers would destroy the class. Some people main it you know? That is like Torn Banner nerfing knights because they are “annoying” and do too much “damage”

    BUT HARULD. KN0IGHT SUPPOSED 2 DO DAT.

    Well. A fucking heavy Bolt travelling at like 20mph going straight in your head. :/

    Case closed.

    Btw i main maa. Something that is squishy to archers. I still don’t mind them.


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    buff, one shot kill everything, plus able to parry with the bow, also kick and speed draw



  • Should be able to draw while kicking too.



  • @King:

    Btw i main maa. Something that is squishy to archers. I still don’t mind them.

    To add:

    -Javelin players can block arrows / bolts with their shield and 1-shot with javelins in return
    -knights have shields and some of the best weapons to roflpown archers
    -van guards have that strange item called ‘smoke grenade’ and also 1 shot archers
    -maa have a shield and can dodge.

    That really sums it up; archers have an up hill battle really. Theres a lot more to archery than it might first appear. Yes you can get a lucky shot off but against a player that thinks and uses their own class effectively its all of a sudden MUCH MORE DIFFICULT.

    A good tradesman never blames his tools.



  • Why do people have to use shields just because some asshole wants to shoot mauls at them across the map?
    Smoke pots are as useful as throwing leaves at your opponents, especially when the particles can be removed and shit.
    Arrows and other projectiles DO NOT travel the same way for the person who shoots them as for the other players, an arrow can land 2 meters in front of you and still deal damage, it can fly to the side of you and you still take damage, you can duck underneath it and get an arrow penetrating your head.

    Archer is by far the easiest class in game, low risk & high reward, shoot a vanguard once? Might as well just stab him, if he doesn’t CFtP, he’s dead, same with MAAs, same with knights depending on the weapon and where you hit.


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    The “why do I have to use a shield” is a dumb argument really. The “why do I have to do this” argument can be used for many things in the game.

    Still ain’t the easiest class in the game. Just look at the scoreboard every game.



  • Archers are fine. People always cry about archers and MAAs and regard knights as the only perfect class - bullshit. A messer always kills an archer in 1 hit and often an MAA while being very fast. That should be nerfed. The same goes for claymores.



  • Just look at the scoreboard every game

    Indeed. Vanguards and knights dominate this game.



  • @King:

    BUT HARULD. KN0IGHT SUPPOSED 2 DO DAT.

    Well. A fucking heavy Bolt travelling at like 20mph going straight in your head. :/

    Case closed.

    Lawl, ever heard of helmets?

    Also butterknife or shortsword is not supposed to let you survive a fight with armored knight if we’re suddenly so bent on realism.



  • A fucking maul isn’t supposed to be thrown around like a rock stars t-shirt at a concert.



  • @King:

    A fucking maul isn’t supposed to be thrown around like a rock stars t-shirt at a concert.

    yet archers can do that across the map and there’s no way for you to counter that, unless you’re an archer yourself.



  • I don’t know about you guys but I just love walking out of spawn, get hit in the knee by a random crossbow bolt that takes 70% off my HP, spend about 1 minute behind random scenery regenerating and hoping that my team doesn’t kill me because “you looked bloody,” walk out of the said cover and get hit again and repeat the process. This is as a knight.

    With vanguard it’s about the same except I lose 95% of my HP and spend about 2 minutes behind cover.

    With MAA I just walk out of spawn and get 1shot by random rank 13 heavy crossbow guy because 1hit body shot kills are very fun and extremely balanced. This gets me back into fight faster because I don’t have to regenerate and instead I just spawn with full HP.

    My second favorite thing is heavy javelin archers forcing hit trades and winning them because heavy javelin stab is quite balanced. What’s more, javelin archer can just jump and block a strike, fly 50m backwards and start throwing javelins without fear of anything.

    And thus I declare infection manor the perfect game mode because it only has 2 whole projectiles ever and those are with the first undead. When he uses them, no more projectiles. Even when he dies.

    @But…:

    Archers are fine.

    lol

    @But…:

    People always cry about archers and MAAs and regard knights as the only perfect class - bullshit.

    lmao

    @But…:

    A messer always kills an archer in 1 hit and often an MAA while being very fast.

    Messer has same hits to kill on archer as it has on MAA, you need to land a headshot with slash or overhead. Messer also isn’t fast at all, it’s the slowest knight sword. If you can’t deal with messer speed, I hope you will never face a SoW knight who does other attacks than LMB.

    @But…:

    That should be nerfed.

    Messer has already received a nerf, albeit minimal. It used to 2shot knights with overheads too.

    @But…:

    The same goes for claymores.

    top kek

    And this concludes my totes not sarcastic post.



  • Kreittis please, why are you trying to reason with less intelligent beings?



  • Playing against even one good archer is freaking awful on certain maps, such as when you’re attacking on the 2nd part of Belmez (the one with the super-exciting wall). Earlier I played attackers against 2 good archers, my team was tearing its hair out in frustration.

    Even reaching the top of the wall without being sniped was an achievement, much less getting the flag up there. As soon as you’d leave cover with the flag, there’d be a 75% chance of getting shot before even reaching the base of the wall. Then you had to contend with the enemy infantry, all while the archers took potshots at you, hitting most of the time. Our archers were not terrible, but were just getting sniped left and right before getting 1 shot off. Fun, right?

    Here’s an idea: REMOVE ARCHER ZOOM and MAKE THE AIM RETICULE WANDER SLIGHTLY. Why should archers get rock-steady aim AND magical telescopic vision? Good archers ruin the fun for everyone but themselves, the only counter is to go Xbow and hope for a lucky shot, since you didn’t sink all your hours into practicing at arching. Also smoke pots are kind of worthless, since they don’t cover enough area and run out waaay too quickly.

    Here’s the thing about playing against skilled archers. You can avoid arrows with a shield + very erratic movement, or you can fight enemy infantry; you can’t do both at once. If you fight, you get shot and killed. If you try to evade the arrows, you get sliced to pieces and killed. Unless your team also has good archers, you’re totally screwed. Shit needs to change.


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