Russians votekicking you out of every goddamn server



  • Wouldn’t work. The trolls are usually bad at the game and killing them is usually the only way to stop them thus making the chance for you to do more team damage before they do.



  • @Ghengis:

    Wouldn’t work. The trolls are usually bad at the game and killing them is usually the only way to stop them thus making the chance for you to do more team damage before they do.

    So, it wouldn’t work because people would tk them? Both parties are in the wrong there and would deserve the boot.



  • I’ve always found this a fallacy; yes trolls can start swinging at teammates hoping to get into a fight, then when someone takes the bait and gets sufficiently high TD the troll votes them.

    This is why we consistently say on the SM servers if someone intentionally hits you, either kickvote or report it to an admin.

    Whenever I see one person intentionally damaging another I tend to opt for a ban, if it’s two teammates having a brawl I tend to kick both unless I can verify who started it.



  • @Karasu:

    That doesn’t solve anything. You can do a ridiculous amount of team damage without killing anyone.

    That’s why I wrote teamkills/teamdamage. What can the trolls do when you take away their ability to keep teamkilling/teamdamaging? Nothing, autokick would be much better than votekick which can be used wrong.



  • @Leopardi:

    What can the trolls do when you take away their ability to keep teamkilling/teamdamaging?

    A lot of things. Set friendlies on fire, throw smoke on melees, shieldblock own archers, protect enemy archers etc. etc… You just have use your imagination. Teamkilling is the lowest, most unimaginative and most boring form of griefing.



  • @MonkeyFiend:

    and a lack of votekick is something that would be exploited by trolls much more - in a server where people couldn’t be votekicked the trolls would just TK everyone until they ragequit.

    There is some debate to the level of votes required for a successful kick - to easy and troll votekicks happen, too high and problem players don’t get kicked.

    If the votekicks are repeated and without any good reason, you could report it to a server admin as griefing

    Or you could just disable friendly fire by default you dumb fuck



  • MonkeyFiend Knows what he is doing tbh. Talking of good movies I might give that Troll Hunter a viewing this afternoon.



  • @danezcou3:

    Or you could just disable friendly fire by default you dumb fuck

    As mentioned in the infraction, am happy to have debate but no need pitch random insults. thanks :)

    As for disabling friendly fire, on a server with standard friendly fire you still get people lmb swinging through teammates, however it’s tempered slightly by the fact they’re penalised for teamdamage (both in respawn times and eventually when their TD is high enough in kick votes).

    If you set FF to 0, people tend to form a melee cluster and just swing wildly into it, since there’s no penalty for doing so. For this reason the few FF 0% servers set up are generally empty as it’s a style of gameplay few people (except maybe for those few who haven’t mastered more than mashing lmb) like.



  • Optionally, make all team damage count 100% towards your own health.



  • @Kim:

    What about an auto kick after x team damage?

    You ever play in the Art of War server way back when? The text was annoying as shit, but I really liked the forgiving system and the instant boot if you’re unforgiven X amount of kills. Apparently it came from some other game? I think if the !fp thing were more known about it would have done really well.

    They also had a lot of server admins on then, and I think that’s the big helper.



  • @Kreittis:

    A lot of things. Set friendlies on fire, throw smoke on melees, shieldblock own archers, protect enemy archers etc. etc… You just have use your imagination. Teamkilling is the lowest, most unimaginative and most boring form of griefing.

    Friendlies on fire causes team damage, a couple of smoke bombs is hardly trolling, protecting enemy archers will just get him killed more likely… all of this is nothing compared to the votekick spam constantly, and then you are banned from the whole session altogether.



  • I don’t think oilpots count towards team damage, not sure if catapults do either, or them boulders on that frozen map.



  • @gndo:

    I don’t think oilpots count towards team damage, not sure if catapults do either, or them boulders on that frozen map.

    Catapults, boulders, ballistae and oil cauldrons do not count as team damage.



  • @quigleyer:

    You ever play in the Art of War server way back when? The text was annoying as shit, but I really liked the forgiving system and the instant boot if you’re unforgiven X amount of kills. Apparently it came from some other game? I think if the !fp thing were more known about it would have done really well.

    They also had a lot of server admins on then, and I think that’s the big helper.

    The !FP system is part of B3 bot, however I’d not use it myself as we found B3 caused even more server instability



  • @gndo:

    I don’t think oilpots count towards team damage, not sure if catapults do either, or them boulders on that frozen map.

    The only difficulty is those douchebag MAA’s that dump oil on their teammates at the beginning of a game in the spawn



  • 1. Play AOCLTS-Arena3_p
    2. Pick MaA with firepot.
    3. Throw it in spawn.
    4. Press M, repick MaA with Firepot
    5. Repeat until the gate is closed.
    6. ???
    7. Profit!



  • @gndo:

    I don’t think oilpots count towards team damage, not sure if catapults do either, or them boulders on that frozen map.

    Well that’s easy to fix, change some variables.



  • As far as I can tell, this community embraces disruptive behaviour. When I made a post suggesting people who try to team kill the king should be banned the general responses were along the lines of “don’t be such a bad sport”, “that’s just the Internet, deal with it” and “It’s part of the game”.



  • Especially when a mod joins in with the “joke” after all its just for the lawlz.



  • @Leopardi:

    That’s why I wrote teamkills/teamdamage. What can the trolls do when you take away their ability to keep teamkilling/teamdamaging? Nothing, autokick would be much better than votekick which can be used wrong.

    lol please, you edited your post after I commented. Trolls can still purposefully get team damaged. There’s going to be trolls. Now we at least have enough active admins to deal with most of them.


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