Nerf to all daggers



  • Here we go again…



  • Well if I can point out for those of you who think that daggers are not OP, they do as much damage as a 1H SOW (almost), and don’t talk to me about getting outreached cos my SOW get outreached by a MAA with a broadsword which is half the length.



  • @50ShadesofClay:

    stupid idea.

    they were lengthened though because of the bubble, and i don’t think they ever got shortened again after the bubble got removed so they still have the range. I know this is true for the broad, not sure about the other two.

    I even made poll about reverting dagger buffs but most people were against it so I don’t give a crap anymore. Daggers are bullshit.



  • @Monsteri:

    Daggers aren’t op, their only strength is facehug gambling which can easily be matrix’d.

    I don’t know what kind of peasants you’ve been fighting, but a good player can’t be “easily matrix’d”. And trust me, I know that better than anyone. I’m an excellent matrixer.

    @Otreum:

    Either that, or make it so if blocking a heavier weapon with a dagger, it staggers the player.

    This is also a great idea.



  • Daggers seem fine to me, really. Shortsword outshines them all if you’re just going for quick stabs, anyway.

    I wouldn’t like seeing a health drain even when you succesfully parried. Doesn’t fit with the rest of the game.
    Parrying a maul with a dagger already costs quite a bit of stamina, though I wouldn’t say it costs enough. Maybe exaggerate that a little more?



  • @Rickvs:

    Daggers seem fine to me, really. Shortsword outshines them all if you’re just going for quick stabs, anyway.

    I wouldn’t like seeing a health drain even when you succesfully parried. Doesn’t fit with the rest of the game.
    Parrying a maul with a dagger already costs quite a bit of stamina, though I wouldn’t say it costs enough. Maybe exaggerate that a little more?

    As I said, should be an instant stagger or the attack breaks right through. If someone with a dagger wants to get down and dirty with someone swinging a maul, there should be consequences :P



  • @Otreum:

    As I said, should be an instant stagger or the attack breaks right through. If someone with a dagger wants to get down and dirty with someone swinging a maul, there should be consequences :P

    Someone with a maul shouldn’t use it vs dagger….



  • @Rickvs:

    Daggers seem fine to me, really. Shortsword outshines them all if you’re just going for quick stabs, anyway.

    I wouldn’t like seeing a health drain even when you succesfully parried. Doesn’t fit with the rest of the game.
    Parrying a maul with a dagger already costs quite a bit of stamina, though I wouldn’t say it costs enough. Maybe exaggerate that a little more?

    you cant parry a maul more than 3 times with a dagger



  • Nerf all archer weapons so that they’re comparable to cudgel.

    Honestly archers should have a massive disadvantage in melee, and they currently don’t.



  • I don’t think they’re good but they’re stupidly fast and skill-less to use. Retarded fast spammy weapons are just lame in general. Back stab is dumb and the fact that they can 3 shot vans easily is pretty dumb.



  • @SOC:

    Nerf all archer weapons so that they’re comparable to cudgel.

    Honestly archers should have a massive disadvantage in melee, and they currently don’t.

    ^ Right there. The man speaks reason.



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  • Yeah……that’s what daggers are supposed to do. Please just stop making posts, your ideas are terrible and seems to just be calling for anything that beats you to be nerfed or removed.



  • wah wah i got killed by an archer in melee

    nerf all archers secondaries



  • @zombojoe:

    wah wah i got killed by an archer in melee

    nerf all archers secondaries

    Actually I kill others as archer in melee a lot easier than I kill with anything knight.

    wah wah i actually died 1vs8 archer melee, don’t nerf



  • @SOC:

    Actually I kill others as archer in melee a lot easier than I kill with anything knight.

    wah wah i actually died 1vs8 archer melee, don’t nerf

    you must live in opposite world


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    @SOC:

    Nerf all archer weapons so that they’re comparable to cudgel.

    Honestly archers should have a massive disadvantage in melee, and they currently don’t.

    I was using sling and cudgel last night. Sticks and stones really do break bones.



  • back stab needs to be removed, a progressive stamina drains need to be added to bow draw or reload so that they are not a full stamina everytime the start melee, additional damage needs to be added to archer parry against heavy slow weapons….

    Make archers rely more on their range and not their melee. Melee should be last resort if they cannot flee to increase their distance. OH dagger spam with a feint stab is OP against any class.



  • archers are toats balanced and everyone just wants to wine and cheese

    daggers are most UP weapon available to archer and needs buffs in major way

    cudge time is ridiculous as archer and needs to be addressed, probably the only problem right now



  • I’ve used daggers for the past couple of weeks now and they are strong but easily countered.

    Keep your distance and use your weapons rage and use feints. That will pretty much destroy most dagger strategies. All it takes is 1 or 2 hits to kill an archer, whilst they have to hit you at least 3 or 4 times, probably more. Unless you let them get you in the back.


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