Balance Chivalry ????



  • Could give all the weapons the same exact stats then, sounds like a fun game.



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  • @Skindiacus:

    You know what would also be great, aside from good balance?
    Bots.

    shut up about the bots the game wasnt advertised as a single player game. bots should be torn banners last priority behind making the mason peasant hat look less like an afro



  • @Skindiacus:

    You know what would also be great, aside from good balance?
    Bots.

    I wonder, if TB made the bots truly competent, would there be any necessity for low-rank servers?



  • @DaciaJC:

    I wonder, if TB made the bots truly competent, would there be any necessity for low-rank servers?

    Of course not. You could change the bots’s difficulty levels so beginning players could still get a kill or two.

    Also, low rank servers would never be a problem again, because you could join any server you want and play with bots until the server fills up. If a player joins it replaces a bot.

    Sick of people exploiting? Bots wouldn’t exploit. Sick of how stupid people are in the chat box? Bots don’t chat. Sick of empty servers? Bots will always be there for you.



  • I think it would just be way too hard to make bots be competent in a game like chivalry. It’s not that hard with a first person shooter because the combat system isnt nearly as complex. How much work would it be to make a bot that could attack effectively using moves that could have any effect on a decent player? I think Torn banner just doesnt have the ability to make bots good enough for someone to have fun fighting them.



  • @MichaelTurtles:

    I think it would just be way too hard to make bots be competent in a game like chivalry. It’s not that hard with a first person shooter because the combat system isnt nearly as complex. How much work would it be to make a bot that could attack effectively using moves that could have any effect on a decent player? I think Torn banner just doesnt have the ability to make bots good enough for someone to have fun fighting them.

    The analog nature of chiv’s combat system would make it extremely hard to make create ‘skilled’ bots, but there are other ways they could make bots fun. They could still improve the AI a lot to make them better, but they could also do things like make the bots team up together a lot more, which would be easy to do and increase the difficulty for human players.

    Stuff like this, for example in a TO game:

    Spawn a maul BOT
    Maul BOT waits at spawn for another BOT with a fast weapon.
    Maul BOT follows faster weapon BOT and targets the same enemy.
    Maul BOT attacks enemy .5 seconds after faster BOT

    Making BOTS that team semi-effectively would be a lot easier than making BOTS that can drag properly and have tricks to bypass a decent players defence. They could make the BOTS have less fancy looking clothes and give them a plebeian look to indicate that they’re not skilled fighters, and the only chance they have is to gang up. The BOTS could represent levies or conscripts or something.



  • I’d suggest just being able to select bots you want to fight against in offline play. ie Knight only bots or the class
    of bot you want to practice against. It would be easier to give players those options then getting into custom made
    bots and tinkering with ai.



  • apropos BALANCE…
    the patch is one the best chivalry has ever recieved and i am seriously wondering why it has taken so long.
    so when i started the game first at that point of time when the patch got released and joined a server i’ve stumbled across the usual real (team) balance problems:
    hordes of rank 40 players in one team, in the other just sub 20 a few higher. seriosuly?
    how would one seriously try to improve balance when not even considering “auto balancing”- wtf
    balance patch, far from it.

    also the biggest issue i have with the game, and which makes it more and more unenjoyable is the fact that there is also no ping limit and nothing to balance anything in that regard.
    i hate it being killed by someone just because he has a high ping. try to read his movement but you simply cant.
    i am not picky but 100ms ping is way too much for chivalry, when i play with 20ms ping why should i be the one getting punished when some hobo is stupid enough or deliberetaly joining “my” server with a +5 frames difference in latency when he could just join some fucking us server or whatever.

    really fix this shit.
    i want a working and reasonable ping limit (i know torn banner wants as many customers as possible but there simply is no reason in 2014 and also judging by the amount of servers to have a ping like that, and why sanction the ones that match the connection speed the game requieres than other way round?)
    … yeah and real auto balancing.



  • If there were better bots, I wouldn’t have to annoy you with my high ping.
    I would literally never play multiplayer again.




  • Mod

    My mate pulled me aside on the weekend at a gathering and asked me “Mate, why the fuck do you drink so bloody much you flamin’ gallah?” to which I politely responded with “Cunt, I’m just tryna be Torn Banner alright. I’m stable as fuck, and if I went for a bloody drive right now, I wouldn’t crash.”

    Then I skulled another shot of absinthe, stood up and tripped over an extension cord, got back up, jumped into my car and realised I was in the passenger seat and then passed out.



  • @Tyoson:

    My mate pulled me aside on the weekend at a gathering and asked me “Mate, why the fuck do you drink so bloody much you flamin’ gallah?” to which I politely responded with “Cunt, I’m just tryna be Torn Banner alright. I’m stable as fuck, and if I went for a bloody drive right now, I wouldn’t crash.”

    Then I skulled another shot of absinthe, stood up and tripped over an extension cord, got back up, jumped into my car and realised I was in the passenger seat and then passed out.

    Hey what’s a gallah? Btw I love the way Australians talk. Not so much the accent, but the language. Thanks cunt.


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    @Oy:

    Hey what’s a gallah? Btw I love the way Australians talk. Not so much the accent, but the language. Thanks cunt.

    Cheers cunt! This is a galah. I spelt it wrong because I’ve never written the word down before, and uh, fuck.



  • @Tyoson:

    Cheers cunt! This is a galah. I spelt it wrong because I’ve never written the word down before, and uh, fuck.

    You forgot to mention why people are refereed to these particular parrots in the first place. They have a tendency to fly away from the road only to do a u-turn and fly right back in-front of incoming cars and die. Or survive and then travel 500km or so in the grill. The more you know :D



  • I watch a lot of Jim Jeffries, and Tim Minchin is another funny Australian. It’s like British but with a funny twist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ

    Indian and Asian accents are inherently funnier though.



  • @Oy:

    I watch a lot of Jim Jeffries, and Tim Minchin is another funny Australian. It’s like British but with a funny twist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ

    Indian and Asian accents are inherently funnier though.

    Jim Jeffries is amazing, one of my favourite comedians. I don’t like Minchin though. I used to live near him (Forest Hill, South East London, if you want to stalk him), and I used to see him in Tescos with a hot woman, presumably his wife. He wasn’t funny there either.



  • @Harry:

    Jim Jeffries is amazing, one of my favourite comedians. I don’t like Minchin though. He wasn’t funny…

    He’s purposely awkward a lot of the time and everybody kind of has an eccentric “character” of themselves that they play to on-stage. His is slightly flamboyant but he’s a great musician and pretty smart chap. He’s just amusing to watch whereas Jim Jeffries is a rude cunt that makes you laugh your ass off.



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