Archer Cancer is a real thing! Stay on topic this time…



  • Yes it is true. Archers give me cancer. Archers are about the only thing that kills me or gets me killed. I could be right in the middle of a beautiful 3 v 1 and about to land the final blows with brilliant combos of dance, then BOOM, archer shoots me and disrupts the art of the flow only to give me anal cancer. I have been recently keeping track in game so every time I die due to archer cancer, I type in chat: archer cancer. Then I do a count of how many times that I have typed that and compare it to the number of deaths I have in game and usually they are about equal. Now this could be because I am an objective whore. I am always going for them, sacrificing my KDR to win the objective no matter what and of course that archer cancer is always in the rear where the objective is. Butt sometimes that archer cancer comes from behind. That is right I get Fd in the A by my own teammate archer. My homie gives be butt cancer too. Actually more often than not this aggressive teammate archer anal cancer actually believes he is helping me by shooting into a melee furball instead of giving cancer to other archers.

    To be honest, I dont mind being shot from range if there was no zoom feature. There were no sniper scopes in medieval times. They sort of have them now for bow hunting but not a freaking zoom lens. But what really gets me is Archer melee. It is like aggressive anal cancer and spreads so fast up your butt that you are instantly dead from anal spam. Archer dagger OH spam is super easy mode when you throw in a kick against any class. Then just sprint away and giggle. Or you just do a quick duck and circle straif and spam away.

    Archers should fear more classes but they dont. They have all the time in the world to make a few ranged shots with the bow and the good ones rarely miss. Archer headshot 1 hit kills are far more annoying than any feint spammer ever thought of. Or maybe I am just an arrow magnet. Then once you are on them, hell even in you hit them they insta switch weapons and parry your combo then spam because they have full stamina.

    This is where I miss Age of Chivalry so much. Archers were actually balanced, didn’t have super powers or ez mode aiming. Archery took actual skill as there was no zoom, no cross hair, no arrow cam (which I actually dont mind so much) and melee was balanced and required even greater skill because almost all weapons 1 shot the archer forcing them to be better a range. Oh the delicious 1 shot halberd stab dropping archers like flies. The good old days…



  • @Retsnom:

    Archers are about the only thing that kills me or gets me killed.

    why play game if you can beat all melee opponents.

    seems boring



  • @Rekrab:

    why play game if you can beat all melee opponents.

    seems boring

    It is a rant about the OP nature of this ranged class and the shear amount of anal cancer that archers infect the game with including teammate archer cancer. Oh I am willing to compromise if it was properly balanced but sadly they are not. They infect everyone’s anus and they are backdoor sort of guys that will F someone in the A without the courtesy of a reach around. Then if you add in the numbers that are allowed in most servers you are getting Fd in the A by many making me feel like a overly used dirty whore. Clearly having only 1 out of 10 deaths not being archer related should prove that they are indeed cancer.



  • If this is supposed to be funny, it’s far from that. :/



  • not allowed to say cancer on the forums anymore m8. gotta call it ebola



  • call it virgo or leo instead plz.



  • @kanGuru:

    not allowed to say cancer on the forums anymore m8. gotta call it ebola

    ebola is offensive



  • Arching somebody you can’t beat in melee is the ultimate easy win fuck you scenario, like GTA Rocket Launchers.



  • I play vanguard nowadays and I refuse to switch to a shield just because of archers.

    Archers are cheap killers and coupled with fast melee weapons and fast movement speed are completely evil.

    168 damage from an archer… so fucking annoying.

    Removed flinch - it still completely screws you up interrupting your combo or parry or something to get you killed.

    When I finally charge down an archer (usually with barely any health as they hit me) I have to feint (and dont feel bad about it) otherwise they parry and riposte with the speed of light. And if they do hit you I am still in parry recovery when that next attack comes in. I also think dagger two hits a vanguard with overhead to the head.

    Overall they are probably the only thing that really needs to be fixed.

    If I do take archer (which is occasionally nowadays) I feel overpowered and evil and I feel sorry for the people I hit.

    I feel stupid with every game I have to constantly run in circles to avoid any archering.

    They have a place in the game but

    • remove zoom
    • reduce damage 25%
    • give them flinch back


  • the flinch is dumb, it will cancel your parries and combos

    either it flinches everything or it flinches nothing none of this inbetween nonsense



  • Fuck archers. Scum of the earth, bane of all honorable fighters, the spawn of flies who leech off the exertions of better players then themselves. I would gladly spam F10 if it meant that with every death, some random archer, friend or foe, would explode into a thousand giblets without warning.



  • It’s best fun to play vanguard on offense on 24 player, 4 archer limit servers that are not full, so between 8-10 enemies you have 4 archers and 4-6 melee players.



  • Archers are in a pretty good spot in Merc’s mod, at least. Although, if I was really only concerned about catering to my own bias, they would only exist in the deepest hollows of hell- along with AIDS and backswings.



  • @zombojoe:

    either it flinches everything or it flinches nothing none of this inbetween nonsense

    yeah but tbs doesnt know how to code either of those things properly



  • The cure for Archer Cancer

    Melee:
    Allow archer to be 1 hit by every primary weapon if they get hit in the back
    Increase weapon switch time
    Allow archers kick with bow in hand
    Reduce armor/health by 10%
    Archers take additional 5% damage with successful parry from the top 5 heavy and slowest weapons - Maul, Polehammer, Halberd, Double axe, Zwie (maybe a couple more)

    Arching:
    Stamina drain when drawing the bow (percentage) divided by the number of arrows
    Allow archers to sprint while loading and shooting (exception X-bow reloading of course)
    Remove zoom, Remove crosshair
    Increase range of arrows but lower the speed

    Other
    Fix Kick
    Fix chase mechanic
    Archer limits 4 per side per 24 man server - but if the above was implemented then no archer limit.

    See how easy that is to balance the archers? Jav is another story though and not quite sure how to balance it but maybe the above would be enough.

    Whoot I cured archer anal cancer!



  • @DaciaJC:

    Fuck archers. Scum of the earth, bane of all honorable fighters, the spawn of flies who leech off the exertions of better players then themselves.

    Flattery will get you nowhere



  • the louder you are about archers, the more it makes me want to shoot you



  • @Le:

    the louder you are about archers, the more it makes me want to shoot you

    Archer cancer!



  • The game has been out what, 2½ years (approx.) and TBS has officially said that there will be no more balance changes and now you are starting to realize this?

    I’m sorry but too little too late. Archers will always be OP in vanilla and there is nothing you can do about it.



  • @Kreittis:

    The game has been out what, 2½ years (approx.) and TBS has officially said that there will be no more balance changes and now you are starting to realize this?

    I’m sorry but too little too late. Archers will always be OP in vanilla and there is nothing you can do about it.

    archers are OP in mercs


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