Competitive community status:


  • Banned

    Recently my clan has been under a lot of scrutiny. From what I understand the rest of the competitive clans, or at least a few wish to no longer include us in tournaments, and wars. Most of the rational I have heard regarding the issues is as follows:

    • atom clan is a bunch of bullies
    • we have “fight me right now” abrasive attitude
    • we want to beat our competition at any means nessasary

    so essential what I take away form this is as follows:

    • the other clans don’t want to fight us, because they don’t want to lose.
      I don’t really know what else to say, to me it seems like these clans aren’t looking for true competition. Atom is made out to be bullies simply because we win? I never realized that wanting to fight in a game based off war and fighting would be such a problem.

    Plz correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the whole point of making a competitive chivalry clan to fight other clans? I know for a fact me and my clan would NEVER say “no” to a war. We made a clan for the sole purpose of fighting, and we call our clan “Competitive” because we want to test our strength against anyone and EVERYONE.

    So plz tell me, am I wrong for wanting to fight? Am I wrong for asking other clans to fight? Or is it only a problem because we are too good to beat?

    So plz, if you have a “competitive” clan let me know, I’m looking for clans that want to fight other clans all the time.
    And just a side note I do find it cowardly if you have a clan, and your clan fights other clans, but won’t fight mine. You cant pick and choose your battles in any sport/war/life in general. Why should our Competitive community be any different.

    Imagine the PA Eagles NFL refusing to play against the NC panthers NFL because they “aren’t ready” it sounds stupid doesn’t it? Nobody would watch football if teams only played when they were “ready”. Fair inst always equal guys someone has to lose and some has to win, that is the nature of competition.


  • Banned

    What if the native Americans know as the Cherokee told Andrew Jackson that they were not “ready” to fight when him and his army came to conquer the natives land? Would Jackson just sit there with his army and guns and respect the spear and bow wielding foes wishes?

    “Just let us train for a weak in private FFA” said the Cherokee.
    “Why does it matter we have guns” said Jackson.

    The answer is no, Jackson moved against the Supreme Court and the Cherokee killing thousands in a event know as the trail of tears.
    This is the nature of war.
    no one gets to pick there battles not even ATOM, we are ready to fight anytime anywhere. I promise you I will never say “no” to battle I will never go down without fighting



  • @I:

    You can’t pick and choose your battles in any sport/war/life in general. Why should our Competitive community be any different.

    That’s where you’re wrong. As a community, we make the rules. We choose our battles and decide who we fight. You wanna make references? Here’s one. War isn’t fair. If those natives weren’t ready for Andrew Jackson’s army, They would have all died. But this isn’t real warfare.

    If it was real, you and your minority clan would be dead long ago from the masses who would have inevitably risen up, your women and children ****d and killed like a proper medieval war. But this isn’t real and the bottom line is… People just don’t want to play with your clan anymore. Am I wrong? I don’t think so.

    If you want people to play with you again, Lower your bar, recruit noobs. If people can’t beat you why should they fight you? “I” personally don’t care. I’m just trying to help. Take my advice or don’t. But if you don’t change, don’t expect others to change. -General Firefly 2016



  • @General:

    That’s where you’re wrong. As a community, we make the rules. We choose our battles and decide who we fight. You wanna make references? Here’s one. War isn’t fair. If those natives weren’t ready for Andrew Jackson’s army, They would have all died. But this isn’t real warfare.

    If it was real, you and your minority clan would be dead long ago from the masses who would have inevitably risen up, your women and children ****d and killed like a proper medieval war. But this isn’t real and the bottom line is… People just don’t want to play with your clan anymore. Am I wrong? I don’t think so.

    If you want people to play with you again, Lower your bar, recruit noobs. If people can’t beat you why should they fight you? “I” personally don’t care. I’m just trying to help. Take my advice or don’t. But if you don’t change, don’t expect others to change. -General Firefly 2016

    Could not have said this better myself.



  • Well put, speech skill +100



  • I agree with zombies on most of his points. The only thing I don’t agree with is that as soon as you have a 6 man squad you should be ready to clan war the best clan in the game. It seems illogical to say that when they haven’t even had their first practice yet. The newer groups (calling them groups if they have not fought in a war yet because this debate has changed the definition of a clan) should be given some leeway when it comes to being put up against their hardest opponent on their first go.

    On the matter pertaining to clans like knights redemption and how HOG used to deny fights is simply cowardice and dishonorable.

    Anyone see the difference I’m making here?

    Also think it would be a great idea to make a document about these kinds of situations so as a community we can agree on something instead of debating any longer because everyone has been so stubborn. I have been moved a little bit more towards zombies side of the debate however I still do not agree on how new groups (because their not clans yet) should be handled.



  • @Firecracker999:

    Also think it would be a great idea to make a document about these kinds of situations so as a community we can agree on something instead of debating any longer because everyone has been so stubborn.

    There’s really nothing to debate, It’s all said and done.



  • @General:

    There’s really nothing to debate, It’s all said and done.

    That’s where your wrong. Why not solve it and be done with it. Instead of saying it’s done when we all know it isn’t



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  • This is a game, people aren’t getting better at a fast enough rate to maintain competition, and a new clan getting destroyed by an established one will just lead to them disbanding and the members moving on. If people aren’t having fun they aren’t going to play, or instead of quitting, they’re excluding the part that isn’t fun. It’s why I can’t play TO without inevitably being kicked.

    Maybe encourage or train other teams instead of shitting on them. Or if your clan has no challenge, split up and form more. This playerbase will not expand enough to keep new clans forming if they all get pissed and leave.



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  • Banned

    @Naleaus:

    This is a game, people aren’t getting better at a fast enough rate to maintain competition, and a new clan getting destroyed by an established one will just lead to them disbanding and the members moving on. If people aren’t having fun they aren’t going to play, or instead of quitting, they’re excluding the part that isn’t fun. It’s why I can’t play TO without inevitably being kicked.

    Maybe encourage or train other teams instead of shitting on them. Or if your clan has no challenge, split up and form more. This playerbase will not expand enough to keep new clans forming if they all get pissed and leave.

    I have heard this argument before from newage and AK, the fault that I see is: you guys are all assuming that if a new clan gets beaten they are gunna cry and rage quit the game like butt hurt little girls. IMO if the new clans want to get better they should fight my team, why shelter them from the skill celling? Its only gunna make the loss sting more if the new clans are protected until they build confidents then get defeated, right when they start to think They are strong. If you have the new clans start fighting ALL the clans from the start they will be humbled and be inspired to improve. When you give people false hope then crush them it is much worse. Either way I see a difference in mentality, I think that people in general are strong in will. I don’t think clans will disband over a loss I think it will bring them closer and give them motivation to improve. (Like Charon). you guys seem to think they will lose and rage quit like children. I hope I’m right and the community proves to be more mature.



  • One thing I see that seems weird/different from the PC version is that you all place more importance on scrims, or rather not scrims but wars. On PC, scrims are literally just practice that leads up to a tournament, whereas here they’re all that matters. Do you all run practice scrims instead of serious shit all the time? Maybe start separating the two. People will be able to practice without it counting against them, and you’ll get to foster growth so you can destroy them later.

    Could also try setting up a league. Make a schedule, each team has two fights a week or something. In between teams could scrim as well.


  • Banned

    I think a league is the ultimate goal, we would need 16 clans for that tho.



  • If only I cared about your clan, I might have some sympathy…:love_heart:



  • Nobody is obligated to play against you. If you are a bunch of dicks, that’s basically your own fault. Fix yourselves.



  • @dudeface:

    Nobody is obligated to play against you. If you are a bunch of dicks, that’s basically your own fault. Fix yourselves.

    +1 vote
    When your going around taking away the fun from other people, there’s a problem.


  • Banned

    Being good doesn’t make us dicks. You guys aren’t having fun because you can beat us?



  • You certainly aren’t doing much to disprove the current opinion that you are particularity unpleasant. Trying to browbeat people into playing by calling them cowards only further illustrates this, and proves your immaturity and pettiness.

    Claiming that one is too good is a rather common excuse to try and make oneself, or others, believe that poor behaviour is not the cause of negative reactions. Please. We’ve all seen this silly nonsense a thousand times. This old internet thang has been around a while.

    If you want to have a healthy competitive community, or to be part of one, try and be productive and positive. Take responsibility for your actions. You make the bed you lie in.



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