"Fake News"



  • @hit-trade Those articles are opinion articles. The second one explicitly says “opinion” at the top. The last one is not even written by a journalist, it is written by a playwright and activist. Large news corporations often own all of the smaller news organizations, which is why a lot of them share sources. Do many news organizations use click bait headlines to get people to visit their website? Definitely. Many people have short attention spans, and often only look at a title and don’t even bother to read the content. It is just my personal opinion that people who use the internet daily should be able to tell the difference between real and “fake” news/click bait articles, and also between news articles and opinion pieces. If 14/15 year olds are being manipulated by the media than maybe they should spend less time on Facebook and Twitter and more time reading a legitimate news source about what is really happening in the world.



  • @hit-trade said in "Fake News":

    @Naleaus fair enough, but the article, which is blatantly filled with lies, is published by a news agency, so it can be connected.

    Agreed, opinion or not, it’s affiliated with their name and services. I wouldn’t let my dad come to my house on thanksgiving to give a toast to Hitler and the third Reich if I didn’t agree with it or want that affiliated with me.

    (No my dad is not a neo-Nazi) just an example lol



  • @hit-trade
    News organizations allow editorials that may not reflect the opinion of the company itself. Newspapers having letters to the editor, for example. If they are presented as opinions, they’re usually ok. It’s similar to certain shows on Fox News being misconstrued as news instead of opinion.

    People can’t differentiate between the two. Add in social media and people’s own inherent biases, you get a lot of badly informed people, much like @Patriotize said.



  • @jessomaticz said in "Fake News":

    If 14/15 year olds are being manipulated by the media than maybe they should spend less time on Facebook and Twitter and more time reading a legitimate news source about what is really happening in the world.

    Exactly my point. But who’s to stop them? With society nowadays, you can’t even control what your kid is reading without looking like some stuck up asshole who hates all gays and wants to watch the world burn or something. Everyone is a snowflake. Just how it is with this generation.



  • @hit-trade also, an example of Donald Trump not knowing the difference between fake and biased, in my opinion, is calling CNN fake news. Biased? Probably, I don’t watch or read it so I’m not sure. But fake? I think that’s a stretch. That’s just my opinion though because I know some people disagree and that’s okay



  • @Patriotize
    It’s a free speech issue. If someone wants to hold a KKK rally, and go through the appropriate channels/measures to do so, they’re allowed to. I don’t agree with their message, but I’m not going to disallow it, otherwise it sets the precedent that banning anything we don’t agree with is acceptable.

    Also, social media (Facebook mostly) is causing older generations that aren’t tech savvy to become misinformed as well.



  • @Patriotize said in "Fake News":

    @jessomaticz said in "Fake News":

    If 14/15 year olds are being manipulated by the media than maybe they should spend less time on Facebook and Twitter and more time reading a legitimate news source about what is really happening in the world.

    Exactly my point. But who’s to stop them? With society nowadays, you can’t even control what your kid is reading without looking like some stuck up asshole who hates all gays and wants to watch the world burn or something. Everyone is a snowflake. Just how it is with this generation.

    That’s fair, and I’ll admit I’m ignorant as to what it would be like to raise a child in a society like this. I imagine if I were, I would just try to teach them the difference and educate them as best I can.



  • @jessomaticz
    I have a 21 month old. I don’t want to indoctrinate her into thinking the same way as I do, as I want her to think for herself, but I also want to make sure she will understand how to sieve truth from falsehood or opinion. There’s a fine balance I think. Not looking forward to it :(



  • @jessomaticz do you think that there are legit mainstream news outlets? If so, what are they and why?



  • @hit-trade I wouldn’t be the one to say what is legitimate to some and to others, I live in Canada so my news outlets are different from yours. I think there are many media websites that are more like blogs than news, not denying that either. I’m not denying the existence of fake or biased news, some may be more biased than others and some may be more fake than others, my only point is that good journalism is necessary. Donald Trump calls the media “the enemy of the American people”, but I just don’t agree with that viewpoint.



  • @hit-trade just because some outlets are bad does not mean they all are, and does not mean they are your enemy. They call journalists “the fourth estate” because they are supposed to keep politicians in check.



  • @jessomaticz oh, alright. I didn’t know you were Canadian. That explains a lot lol. I agree with your sentiment. The press is very crucial in a modern society, and it must be very objective, so that our public is informed enough to make decisions about voting for people who will change public policy.

    The criticisms of Trump, from what I’ve seen and heard, are not based around his policies, they’re about misrepresenting him, which I feel isn’t right.



  • @hit-trade
    I typically read multiple sites versions and compare. Knowing one is left leaning and the other is right allows you to get a bit better idea.

    Also, I typically like the AP, BBC, and Reuters. Nothing is ever 100% from bias though.



  • @Naleaus yeah, it’s unavoidable. I find those sites to be pretty good as well.



  • @hit-trade said in "Fake News":

    The criticisms of Trump, from what I’ve seen and heard, are not based around his policies, they’re about misrepresenting him, which I feel isn’t right.

    This is a extremely common tactic called an ad hominem and has been used against every President. Obama was called Muslim and accused of not being American, Bush’s intelligence/letting other members of his cabinet run things, Clinton’s extramarital affair, etc. It’s unfortunately how politics are and will continue to be as long as they sway opinions.



  • @hit-trade it would be very difficult to support someone when everyone is constantly very critical of them. Especially when no one takes the time to consider other viewpoints. Whether or not I agree with Donald Trump, I respect the fact that people do and have their reasons, and those reasons are just as valid as those who dont support him.
    Many people are focusing their hate on one guy, but if people had more open discussions with one another about opposing viewpoints, I think a lot more people would find common ground. Politics are so polarizing these days in general



  • @Naleaus very true.



  • @jessomaticz that is how things should be, but unfortunately it doesn’t happen that way



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  • @hit-trade said in "Fake News":

    @Hoplite-x-Viz the reason Trump supporters are crying wolf(?) is because the criticism of Trump from the mainstream media is simply wrong and skewed. I support Trump, and I am willing to discuss why and learn legitimate criticisms, and have a decent discussion, but the liberal media doesn’t want that! I’m a white-supremacist racist because I support Trump, according to liberal media.

    I’m left leaning and have never have been so ideologically opposed to any president till Trump came (I was too young and politically unaware in Bush’s day)

    That being said, you should be allowed to vote for whoever you want to without fear + judgement. Even if it is Trump.

    I guess I just don’t understand why some people blindly follow him. He says fake news, his voters respond fake news…even without being informed.


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