I feel like I am playing a different game from everyone else?

  • Please leave behind the “git gut” comments and try to be constructive here. Besides I always end up in the top 5 of the match in terms of score, so I can’t be ‘THAT’ bad. I’ve written down some stuff as I was playing in my last session. There is a ton more issues I can come up with, but this is what I got so far:

    1. There are people that can somehow ONESHOT me in 1on1 while I have my block up and from the front. As if the shield wasn’t there. Mind you I am at full stamina. Now I have tried many things, even played a few hours with the highest dmg weapons, I never managed to do this once, unless its a backstab or a charge attack without shield up.

    2. For this one I actually went to REDO the tutorial a 2nd time, just to make sure I got it right. Ripostes never work in online play, they always get blocked even though they are suposed to be faster attacks? Somehow some ppl even manage to get their attack in before my riposte with slow 2handers…

    3. I bait out a kick as I hold my shield up, they kick, so I respond with an attack, they land their kick AND still manage to land a follow up attack before I can end my attack that started DURING their kick??

    4. I am watching videos on youtube and how they just attack so much faster than me in general. And I really mean basic attacks. My animations seem to be so much slower? Pretty much with any move I make, somehow the enemy can respond to it and land their attack before mine. I Main Knight with 1h spear+shield and videos show attacks so much faster than in my own game, what am I missing then??

    5. non of my attacks that land ever interrupt enemies, I still get hit. Not sure how other ppl interrupt me all the time?

    6. I have the feeling that a ton of my shots and hits don’t register. I have went into offline practice to test this with Xbow and Spear+shield. In offline mode I can literally hit all my shots, even on moving targets, While in online mode I rarely ever get a hit, even in point blank somehow, the shots miss 90% of the time. Not even exagerating here, as I move into melee to try and shoot someone in his back. As I see the bolt/arrow trail go clearly trough enemies, I dont get a hit. I have an uber stable connection with a ping anywhere between 8 and 20 at all times.

    7. Also why I redid the tutorial is fighting multiple enemies. I know how to do it, it just never works in online mode, I get absolutely destroyed by hits as I try to recreate the tutorial moves.

    Anyone who can clear up any of this… Much appreciated! There are a ton more irregular things, But I thought I’d start with this.

  • Correction to main post. I can’t find an edit button? :o

    for number 6 “While in offline mode I rarely ever get a hit”. Obviously at that point I meant online mode.

    Another question while I’m at it. Does a helmet matter at all or just cosmetical?

    1. You need to look at the weapon you’re blocking, it’s common for people to try and swing/stab around your block. As for being one-shotted I don’t know, as far as I know only the maul is capable of that with it’s special attack.

    2. Riposting isn’t a free hit, it’s just a fast way for you to retaliate. Your riposte should be faster than anything the opponent can do, even the jab which is the fastest attack in the game. You may be dragging the weapon away from the opponent which gives him the opportunity to hit you first.

    3. Either your weapon is too slow or you reacted too slowly. I’ve had the same issue sometimes where I do the same thing and my opponent’s 1 handed weapon still landed before my 2 handed. Overall it’s been ok though, try attacking out of your block instead of dropping block then attacking. It’ll come out faster.

    4. It’s shown in the tutorial but drag your weapon towards the enemy so they get caught in the beginning of the swing rather than the middle/end. Riposting also makes attacks faster.

    5. I think this is a glitch lol there are definitely plenty of times where I hit the opponent and they don’t stagger at all and attack me right afterwards.

    6. Could be lag, I haven’t really had this issue.

    7. Just gotta keep playing/practicing. You’ll get it man.

  • @Swag-Mountains

    1. On my screen they are right infront of me, they did not swing around the shield. That would be a serious lag issue if in reality they are swinging around me without me able to react to it.

    2. You say 2 countering things. It is not a free hit BUT it is faster than anything your opponent can do… It cannot be both, so which one is it? :)

    3. I thought I mentioned it, if not… Im maining 1h spear & shield. Which should be faster than those heavy 2handers.

    4. That is BS :(

    5. Funny enough I’ve been playin with xbow most of the day today and almost every time I was ranked first in the match. Even though I miss 90% of my shots, it is ridiculous. Not sure what that says about my team … I think my best match I ended just under 9k score.

    1. Not sure then, there’s no reason why it shouldn’t be blocking. Perhaps they’re sidestepping at the last second to hit around your block?

    2. It’s not a free hit meaning the opponent can parry/counter your riposte. It should still be faster than any attack your opponent does.

    3. You probably started your attack too slow.

    4. Yeah lmao

    5. No clue since I’ve never played archer. It could be an ongoing issue but I haven’t heard anyone else mention it.

  • @Swag-Mountains

    I’m about to make a recording, just to be able to play it back in slowmo. Cause the more I play ranged the crazier (frustrated) I get missing all those point blank shots… I’ll link vids later if interested. I don’t care having bad aim, if that is the case so be it. I just refuse to believe I miss point blank until I’ve seen it slowmo playback :)

    After a lot of recordings, it seems to me that my brain just cannot handle the way xbows work in this game. Obviously the bolt goes way too slow compared to real life. Therefor even in point blank, it is extremely easy to miss a target. I have also noticed that the shot-audio comes 0.5secs before the actual shot, which is another thing that will F with the mind when you are trying to aim.
    The one thing that sticks out like crazy is the hitbox of your bolt depending on what is in front of you. The hitbox is tiny as can be on enemies, but trying to shoot in between 2 teammates is impossible as you will always do team dmg even though the bolt did not even come close to them. Which means there is defo a hitbox issue there. The amount of times I hit teammates while not even aiming at them is numerous and beyond reason. I could shoot straight up in the air randomly and still hit 2 teammates somehow with that 1 bolt. (yes I exagerate a bit now, but that is what it feels like :p)

    That all said I still believe that some shots should defo be hits when I replay in slowmo. I’m not going to edit&upload those since there are too few cases that were really clear as day. All things concidered I am still doing very well in terms of score, often being top player of the match when I played xbow 100% of the time and rarely being on objectives. Strange stuff cause I really feel like I am so bad at it. And that is really not me just being humble or w/e.

  • Exactly this. The first few times I played it I didn’t feel there was an issue but Sunday night it was all these things. I experiment with all classes and I had issues all night. I couldn’t block effectively, my hits always being blocked even when I attacked from behind. Arrows hitting team mates who where meters to the side of where I was aiming etc. All the symptoms you described.

    I ran some network tests after an my broad band was well below what I normally gets I’ve chalked it up as a network / laggy issue.

  • First of all, say that the game is amazing and love it.

    But, I totally agree with what you have written. I have logged into the forum to create a thread with your points, but you are ahead of time :)

    I think since the last patch (patch or internal change), it exists as a kind of HANDICAP or something like that. In some matchs, everything that you have explained in the points happens. And in other matchs it does not happen.

    It’s very strange. And this began to happen from one day to the next (since last patch).

    Play the game has become very frustrating. It was not like this in the past.

    And I want to add more things that happen to me.

    In some matches, different players, in 1 hit, take my weapon from me. They give me another blow and take the second weapon from me. They give me the third blow and they kill me. Full health, full stamina. What??

    I reappear, and again the same. What??

    Like this 4 or 5 times in a row. What??

    Then I look at the players who has killed me and is not pro. They are at the bottom on the scoreboard.

    Very strange things happen lately.

  • +1 to each listed points you all have mentioned. Since the last 3/4 days I have experienced a kind of net code issues in the game. My average latency is 28-30ms on Xbox). My friends and me feel a sort of lag compensation from the game. I have played using Wifi and Ethernet cable. Same issues. I don’t know if you guys have changed the game’s net code, servers or any source code related to the connectivity but it’s very frustating. I hope the dev team to fix this asap since the game was fun at launch week. Please do a rollback according to this thread feedback.

  • It is very hard for me to say anything in comparison to over a week ago, cause I only just started playing a few days back. I’m pretty sure that was after the update, since I haven’t seen a patch yet.

    That said, it DOES feel like there is a netcode issue. Sometimes I do get a hit register way after I have shot/swung. I also often see ppl very confused as to what my actual position is, very similar to the confusions I experience myself when it is on the other end, I’m sure.

    I have played games with awful netcode before, in recent memory ‘Escape from Tarkov’ comes to mind. As that still has a bitter taste in my mouth, I know exactly what bad netcode feels like. So I do hope they fix this problem, it might be as simple as increasing the server tick rate. If they don’t, the game will never be anything more than a casual gamble lmb game.

    Here are some (to me) clear as day examples of where the netcode failed me hard :)

  • @Xili84 I’ve seen your videos. xDxD Same happen to me yesterday. Unplayable and frustrating.

  • @knight87 It is why I stopped playing melee for now. It is even more frustrating when things like this happen in melee. At least as a ranged you don’t get killed as often because of it. You just … Miss or Team damage.

  • Is this on console? I sometimes play xbow on pc and never get the problems you show in your videos.

  • @Xili84 I just watch your videos. I can relate, that’s what it’s was like for me last week when using a bow. I was only being a ‘cowardly archer’ for the sake of unlocking everything, I’ve given up on that class path for now as I was sick of shooting my own team, even when I lined up a shot that I thought couldn’t possibly hit one of my own. it still did.

  • I love it! Finally the Feint is useless

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