Warbawz ([TOB] Killkan) Attempts To DQ JackBaldy



  • In today’s latest news story concerning Chivalry: Medieval Warfare, Warbawz (A.K.A. [TOB] Killkan) attempts to wrongfully disqualify Team JackBaldy from the Dark Age Gaming 5 v 5 LTS tournament. The following chat log shows the bias and lack of reasoning, intelligent thought, and logic in Warbawz’ heinous demands/commands.

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    Monday, December 03, 2012
    6:21 AM - ~X~: Here my co-leader can speak to you.
    Warbawz is now playing Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. Click here to join.
    Warbawz is now playing Chivalry: Medieval Warfare. Click here to join.
    6:21 AM - JackBaldy: What appears to be the problem?
    6:21 AM - Warbawz: sure
    6:21 AM - Warbawz: the ex FK member you have
    6:21 AM - Warbawz: next time he plays in a match have him take the FK tags off
    6:21 AM - JackBaldy: Why?
    6:22 AM - Warbawz: does he play for FK?
    6:22 AM - JackBaldy: Does it matter?
    6:22 AM - Warbawz: yeah, it does
    6:22 AM - JackBaldy: I’m not seeing the relevance.
    6:22 AM - JackBaldy: Explain the relevance to me.
    6:22 AM - Warbawz: since he doesnt play for FK he can take the tags off
    6:22 AM - JackBaldy: Why?
    6:22 AM - Warbawz: I just told you
    6:22 AM - JackBaldy: No you did not.
    6:22 AM - Warbawz: since he does not play for FK
    6:22 AM - Warbawz: he can take the tags off
    6:22 AM - Warbawz: if he plays for FK, he can keep the tags on
    6:22 AM - JackBaldy: You stated that because he does not play for Forgotten Kings, he should take off his tags. There’s no real elaboration there, merely a set of commands.
    6:23 AM - JackBaldy: If you elaborate further with more details and supporting examples, then we can get somewhere.
    6:23 AM - JackBaldy: Otherwise it seems like you’re making things up on the fly.
    6:23 AM - Warbawz: I just spent the last 15 minutes of my time letting X debate this with me
    6:23 AM - Warbawz: now it is pretty much a command
    6:23 AM - JackBaldy: Well now you have me.
    6:23 AM - JackBaldy: Well, we won’t do it.
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: ok then he just wont play
    6:24 AM - JackBaldy: If you don’t give me a valid reason, we won’t do it.
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: I just gave you a valid reason
    6:24 AM - JackBaldy: And if you somehow disqualify us because of this, your tournament will look rigged.
    6:24 AM - JackBaldy: No you did not.
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: unless he plays for FK, he shouldnt be wearing their tags in a match
    6:24 AM - JackBaldy: You gave me a set of commands.
    6:24 AM - JackBaldy: No rational thought or reasoning.
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: I would say the same thing if he was to wear a Vq tag
    6:24 AM - JackBaldy: Give me rational thought or reasoning and then we can get somewhere.
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: or a Kila tag
    6:24 AM - JackBaldy: How old are you by the way?
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: or a TOB tag
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: 25
    6:24 AM - Warbawz: you?
    6:25 AM - JackBaldy: If you’re truly 25, then explain to me what is the issue with Zeroace having a certain name.
    6:25 AM - Warbawz: please, tell me what I have already told you
    6:25 AM - Warbawz: tell me the reasons I have just given
    6:25 AM - JackBaldy: If you cannot do so, I will take it that you are either lying about your age or you’re not intelligent enough to be considered to be of age 25.
    6:25 AM - Warbawz: ok :)
    6:25 AM - Warbawz: he can take the tag off or he wont play
    6:25 AM - JackBaldy: Look, the issue at hand is a “name.”
    6:26 AM - JackBaldy: Why is anyone’s name important?
    6:26 AM - JackBaldy: How is that relevant to the tournament?
    6:26 AM - JackBaldy: How does that effect tournament play?
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    6:26 AM - Warbawz: it isnt his name
    6:26 AM - Warbawz: its his tag
    6:26 AM - Warbawz: he is wearing a tag
    6:26 AM - JackBaldy: The tag is part of the name.
    6:26 AM - Warbawz: interesting
    6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:27 AM - Warbawz: last time I checked tags affiliated players with clans
    6:27 AM - JackBaldy: 6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Your the tournament host, not a mediator. So explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Do it.
    6:28 AM - JackBaldy: You’re the tournament host*
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: either you make the guy take the tag out while he plays a match. Or he doesnt play at all.
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: from what I am seeing you just don’t want him to play at all
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: fine by me
    6:28 AM - JackBaldy: He’s playing.
    6:28 AM - JackBaldy: Give me logic, however.
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: well alright then
    6:28 AM - JackBaldy: Then I might see things diffrerently
    6:28 AM - JackBaldy: Otherwise it seems like you’re rigging your tournament
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: oh yes
    6:28 AM - JackBaldy: It’s okay, I know that you fear what comes before you.
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: rigging it indeed
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: by having a tag removed
    6:28 AM - Warbawz: hahaha
    6:28 AM - JackBaldy: 6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:29 AM - JackBaldy: Do it.
    6:29 AM - Warbawz: nah I don’t feel like sitting here debating with you when I have already given a reason
    6:29 AM - Warbawz: here I will say it again
    6:29 AM - Warbawz: He doesnt play for FK
    6:29 AM - JackBaldy: So you don’t have any logical reasoning and you’re grasping at the straws to try and disqualify us because you fear us.
    6:29 AM - Warbawz: so
    6:29 AM - Warbawz: when he plays in a match, he needs to take that tag off
    6:29 AM - Warbawz: since he is playing for jackbaldy not for FK
    6:29 AM - JackBaldy: Zeroace will come in with the following name: Zeroace=?|?=
    6:30 AM - Warbawz: ok
    6:30 AM - Warbawz: then Zeroace will be removed from the match
    6:30 AM - JackBaldy: No.
    6:30 AM - Warbawz: you can find a replacement or you can have him change his name
    6:30 AM - JackBaldy: I’ve done nothing against the rules and if you disqualify us, it will be a wrongful disqualification that will be known.
    6:30 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how it is against the rules and the reasoning behind such rule.
    6:30 AM - Warbawz: no one is disqualifiying your team baldy
    6:31 AM - JackBaldy: Zeroace is a team member.
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: wonder where you got that from
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: however
    6:31 AM - JackBaldy: One for all, all for one.
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: Zeroace
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: needs to change his name
    6:31 AM - JackBaldy: His name, as I stated, will be Zeroace=?|?=
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: k
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: he will join
    6:31 AM - JackBaldy: Yes.
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: he will then be asked to change his name
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: you will say no
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: he will get temp banned
    6:31 AM - Warbawz: then you will have to find a replacement
    6:31 AM - JackBaldy: Rigged tournament then?
    6:32 AM - JackBaldy: Seems fixed.
    6:32 AM - Warbawz: Call it rigged if you want. Seems like someone is trying to get their player removed
    6:32 AM - JackBaldy: You don’t want to discuss with us this rule that you’re making up on the fly.
    6:32 AM - Warbawz: this is the first time it has risen up where someone is wearing tags of a clan they do not play for
    6:32 AM - JackBaldy: 6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:32 AM - Warbawz: it was brought to my attention
    6:32 AM - JackBaldy: 6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:32 AM - Warbawz: now it is going to be changed and enforced
    6:32 AM - JackBaldy: 6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:33 AM - ~X~: It’s not tags. It’s a name.
    6:33 AM - Warbawz: 3:31 AM - Warbawz: Zeroace
    3:32 AM - Warbawz: needs to change his name
    6:33 AM - JackBaldy: 6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:33 AM - Warbawz: nah its not a name
    6:33 AM - Warbawz: its a tag
    6:33 AM - ~X~: You can prove this?
    6:33 AM - Warbawz: everyone knows that
    6:33 AM - Warbawz: did he have that in his name before joining FK?
    6:33 AM - JackBaldy: This tag, as you call it, is not even placed the same way as Forgotten Kings
    6:33 AM - Warbawz: =?|?=
    6:33 AM - Warbawz: seems the same to me
    6:33 AM - JackBaldy: Anyhow, Warbawz, you’re not explaining to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play
    6:34 AM - JackBaldy: You’re not explaining even how someone’s tags is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:34 AM - Warbawz: each clan has entered a team
    6:34 AM - Warbawz: each clan has players that play for their team
    6:34 AM - JackBaldy: Some clans have entered several teams
    6:34 AM - Warbawz: does this guy play for FK?
    6:34 AM - Warbawz: does he play for their team?
    6:34 AM - JackBaldy: Some clans have played with clan members plus non clan members
    6:34 AM - Warbawz: ok no
    6:34 AM - Warbawz: so then he shouldnt be wearing their tag in a match
    6:34 AM - JackBaldy: How is that relevant?
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: you are right in saying that
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: BUT
    6:35 AM - JackBaldy: Of course I’m right.
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: the non clan members dont wear other tags
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: like your guy is
    6:35 AM - JackBaldy: 6:27 AM - JackBaldy: Explain to me how someone’s name is relevant to the tournament and how it effects tournament play.
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: =?|?=
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: thats FKs tag
    6:35 AM - JackBaldy: How is it relevant to the tournament?
    6:35 AM - JackBaldy: And how does it effect tournament play?
    6:35 AM - JackBaldy: And what role do you play in all of this?
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: 3:35 AM - Warbawz: each clan has entered a team
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: each clan has players that play for their team
    3:35 AM - JackBaldy: Some clans have entered several teams
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: does this guy play for FK?
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: does he play for their team?
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: ok no
    3:35 AM - JackBaldy: Some clans have played with clan members plus non clan members
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: so then he shouldnt be wearing their tag in a match
    3:35 AM - JackBaldy: How is that relevant?
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: you are right in saying that
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: BUT
    3:35 AM - JackBaldy: Of course I’m right.
    3:35 AM - Warbawz: the non clan members dont wear other tags
    3:36 AM - Warbawz: like your guy is
    6:35 AM - JackBaldy: Like I said
    6:35 AM - JackBaldy: You haven’t explained
    6:35 AM - Warbawz: What role do I play……
    6:36 AM - JackBaldy: You’re giving me the end result
    6:36 AM - JackBaldy: Nothing in between
    6:36 AM - JackBaldy: No logic
    6:36 AM - JackBaldy: No reasoning
    6:36 AM - Warbawz: you don’t really have a choice
    6:36 AM - Warbawz: no one does
    6:36 AM - Warbawz: either they play with their teams clan tag
    6:36 AM - Warbawz: no tag
    6:36 AM - JackBaldy: I don’t see why a tournament host should get involved on whether or not someone has a certain name or tag
    6:36 AM - Warbawz: one or the other
    6:36 AM - JackBaldy: If you can explain it to me instead of giving me circular logic, then we can get somewhere.
    6:37 AM - Warbawz: just answer this
    6:37 AM - Warbawz: Does this guy play for FK?
    6:37 AM - JackBaldy: As far as I’m concerned, someone’s name has absolutely no effect on tournament play
    6:37 AM - Warbawz: 3:37 AM - Warbawz: just answer this
    3:38 AM - Warbawz: Does this guy play for FK?
    6:37 AM - JackBaldy: 6:37 AM - JackBaldy: As far as I’m concerned, someone’s name has absolutely no effect on tournament play
    6:37 AM - Warbawz: yeah ok
    6:37 AM - JackBaldy: I mean it’s clear that Forgotten Kings is upset because they got destroyed
    6:37 AM - Warbawz: so he doesnt play for FK
    6:37 AM - JackBaldy: That’s understandable
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: But what I don’t understand is the tournament host coming in with such bias
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: Although I suppose the fear you have in your eyes because you’re to face us next
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: That makes it quite more unstandable
    6:38 AM - Warbawz: you are the only team that has a player wearing a tag other than your own
    6:38 AM - Warbawz: hard to be bias there
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: And?
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: How is that relevant?
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: How is someone’s name or tag relevant to tournament play?
    6:38 AM - Warbawz: you said I am coming with bias buddy
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: To put things simply, it’s not
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: You are
    6:38 AM - JackBaldy: It’s quite obvious
    6:38 AM - Warbawz: 3:39 AM - Warbawz: you are the only team that has a player wearing a tag other than your own
    3:39 AM - Warbawz: hard to be bias there

    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: It’s quite clear that you’re grasping at the straws
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: The bias is clear
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: You’re to face us next
    6:39 AM - Warbawz: “grasping at the straws”
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: Yes, it’s exactly what you’re doing
    6:39 AM - Warbawz: yeah we are, we are excited about it
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: You still haven’t stated how someone’s name effects tournamen t play
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: You have no answer
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: No logic
    6:39 AM - Warbawz: right :)
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: If you can give me something logical, then we might get somewhere
    6:39 AM - Warbawz: so have him change his name or not play at all
    6:39 AM - Warbawz: simple concept to understand
    6:39 AM - JackBaldy: Where is the logic in that?
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: No, it’s more like a command
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: No logic
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: No reasoning
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: No intelligent thought behind the command
    6:40 AM - Warbawz: you are right it is a command
    6:40 AM - Warbawz: yeah ok
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: Just a mindless drone that’s filled with fear
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: I can smell it
    6:40 AM - Warbawz: I am commanding you to do it
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: But that’s beside the point
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: Why?
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: What effect does someone’s name have in tournament play?
    6:40 AM - Warbawz: yes, so afraid we want your man to take out another clans tag from his name
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: Answer me that question
    6:40 AM - Warbawz: hahaha
    6:40 AM - JackBaldy: 6:40 AM - JackBaldy: What effect does someone’s name have in tournament play?
    6:40 AM - Warbawz: because I really really want to win my own tournament and my own money :P
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: So what effect does someone’s name have in tournament play?
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: From what I see, it has none
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: I could be named BaldyJack and still play the same
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: So what’s the issue here exactly?
    6:41 AM - Warbawz: this really has you worked up eh baldy
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: You can’t answer a simple question?
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: Is that too much for you?
    6:41 AM - Warbawz: nor can you
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: I figured you were an adult
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: You’re 25
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: What’s wrong?
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: Is logic not your strong point?
    6:41 AM - Warbawz: does he play for FK
    6:41 AM - Warbawz: simple question
    6:41 AM - Warbawz: can you answer it
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: No
    6:41 AM - JackBaldy: That’s not relevant
    6:41 AM - Warbawz: thank you
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: since he doesnt play for FK
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: Irrelevant question
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: he shouldnt wear their tag
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: case closed
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: How does it effect tournament play
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: thanks for understanding
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: No
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: How does it effect tournament play?
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: Answer that question
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: It’s a very simple question
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: does he play for FK?
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: A man of your age should be able to answer it
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: It’s irrelevant
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: how old are you baldy?
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: Older than you.
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: But that’s beside the point
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: wow
    6:42 AM - Warbawz: that is sad
    6:42 AM - JackBaldy: How does it effect tournament play?
    6:43 AM - JackBaldy: You have not answered me
    6:43 AM - Warbawz: I will communicate with you more X on when we play
    6:43 AM - JackBaldy: How does someone’s name effect tournament play to the point where the tournament host has to step in and ask someone to change their name?
    6:43 AM - Warbawz: tuesday so far seems good
    6:43 AM - Warbawz: hope to see you guys on the field
    6:43 AM - Warbawz: thanks for you’r cooperation baldy
    6:43 AM - JackBaldy: You’re dodging my question because you have no logical answer
    Warbawz left chat.

    Ironically enough, they are to face us next. It is no surprise that this “issue” has arisen when it has. Looks like they’re trying to find an easy way out of having to face Team JackBaldy next in the Dark Age Gaming tournament.

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  • If the name doesn’t matter to the tournament, then why was it hard for Zeroace to change it in the first place? He can simply do it in the steam settings and change it back. Not that hard.

    Also Team Jackbaldy faced ForgottenKings and FK lost. Seems like Team Jackbaldy didn’t have enough member so they took one from FK. This is not what someone would expect from clan matches, although it was probably explicitly mentioned. Players shouldn’t share team members.

    Both of you are ridiculous for dragging out such a stupid issue. If warbawz is the tournament director, he is in charge of the rules, and players are bound to follow it. If he demands something unreasonable, then he will have to be replaced. He had every right to disqualify Team Jackbaldy, and Team Jackbaldy had the right to share this unreasonable demand.



  • @boomandvibe:

    If the name doesn’t matter to the tournament, then why was it hard for Zeroace to change it in the first place? He can simply do it in the steam settings and change it back. Not that hard.

    Also Team Jackbaldy faced ForgottenKings and FK lost. Seems like Team Jackbaldy didn’t have enough member so they took one from FK. This is not what someone would expect from clan matches, although it was probably explicitly mentioned. Players shouldn’t share team members.

    Both of you are ridiculous for dragging out such a stupid issue. If warbawz is the tournament director, he is in charge of the rules, and players are bound to follow it. If he demands something unreasonable, then he will have to be replaced. He had every right to disqualify Team Jackbaldy, and Team Jackbaldy had the right to share this unreasonable demand.

    JackBaldy has 12 players. At the time we played vs FK, we had 11 members online.

    Also the player Zeroace joined us because his clan was harassing him negatively. This is a further attempt to keep doing so. Even while Zeroace no longer has his name in the same format as the clan FK. Warbawz is claiming that the set of characters may not be used at all.

    This command is also not in the rule list of the tournament. It has been specifically only brought up in this chat.

    This is also Warbawz/Killkans cheap shot attempt to disqualify us before we play so that he won’t have to lose vs us. It’s pretty low in my opinion.



  • That’s waaaay overreading into things. To me he just sounds like he’s trying to assert his ‘power’ as the tournament director. And you guys just don’t want to lose. You guys are probably old enough to realize it’s sometimes better to avoid confrontation. Warbawz may be doing something not completely favorable, but if he’s your temporary judge or referee or whatever you’d call him, you need to let him do his ‘thing’

    If Zeroace got kicked out of his clan, then he is not playing for them anymore, so why was it hard to change the name in the first place?

    I was watching the tournament stream of Lg and Kila, and the streamer was talking very negatively about Jackbaldy. He was saying Jack is a ‘decent’ player without exploits. I completely disagreed with that; I think Jack are one of the few top players in the game right now. But I had to agree with the streamer when he said Jack gets upset easily. I think Jack or his ‘group buddies’ kind of do get upset easily over trivial things.



  • @boomandvibe:

    That’s waaaay overreading into things. To me he just sounds like he’s trying to assert his ‘power’ as the tournament director. And you guys just don’t want to lose. You guys are probably old enough to realize it’s sometimes better to avoid confrontation. Warbawz may be doing something not completely favorable, but if he’s your temporary judge or referee or whatever you’d call him, you need to let him do his ‘thing’

    If Zeroace got kicked out of his clan, then he is not playing for them anymore, so why was it hard to change the name in the first place?

    He already has changed his name. He no longer has the tags. He now simply has a name that ends with the sequence of characters because he chose to do so. It’s quite obvious now that his name does not look like theirs.



  • @~X~:

    He already has changed his name. He no longer has the tags. He now simply has a name that ends with the sequence of characters because he chose to do so. It’s quite obvious now that his name does not look like theirs.

    If Zeroace took the tags out before the tournament, then Warbawz is definitely at fault here and he may be a little crazy.

    If Zeroace took the tage out after all this argument. Then everyone should be happy.

    Funny how Zeroace is causing problems everywhere. First it’s the ForgottenKings team, then now with everyone else.



  • @boomandvibe:

    Both of you are ridiculous for dragging out such a stupid issue. If warbawz is the tournament director, he is in charge of the rules, and players are bound to follow it. If he demands something unreasonable, then he will have to be replaced. He had every right to disqualify Team Jackbaldy, and Team Jackbaldy had the right to share this unreasonable demand.

    The streamer of that was a player named “Sir Roflsniped”. He doesn’t like us because in beta we would kill him in the game repeatedly to the point that he got so upset, he would switch teams to team kill. We would then vote kick him from the game for team killing.

    Sir Roflsniped also believed that because JackBaldy added him as a steam friend that he was his only and best friend. So when JackBaldy kicked him for team killing, he came back to say “I knew you were a piece of shit, just like X”.

    Obviously he was so upset still that he is talking about JackBaldy in a match that doesn’t include JackBaldy at all.

    Also note that, what you believe Jack’s emotions are remain assumptions of him. Assumptions people are allowed to have.

    @boomandvibe:

    Funny how Zeroace is causing problems everywhere. First it’s the ForgottenKings team, then now with everyone else.

    I don’t believe Zeroace is causing any problems. I see no reason why he should succumb to internet bullying. As you can see, there is no logic or reasoning and it is claimed to be an absurd command. This leads me to believe it’s a form of e-bullying.



  • @~X~:

    The streamer of that was a player named “Sir Roflsniped”. He doesn’t like us because in beta we would kill him in the game repeatedly to the point that he got so upset, he would switch teams to team kill. We would then vote kick him from the game for team killing.

    Sir Roflsniped also believe that because JackBaldy added him as a steam friend that he was his only and best friend. So when JackBaldy kicked him for team killing, he came back to say “I knew you we’re a piece of shit, just like X”.

    Also note that, what you believe Jack’s emotions are remain assumptions of him. Assumptions people are allowed to have.

    I got that feeling. Not that I knew what was going on behind the scenes, but that the streamer was not really a mature person because he kept swearing on the stream and being very biased against Team Kila.

    But if that is true, I lose all respect for Sir roflsniped as he acts like a backstabbing little kid.

    I like Jackbaldy. He’s intelligent, formal, and open. I just didn’t like playing with him because I wasn’t learning and playing against him was frustrating as he had his buddies to cover his back in pub games.

    @~X~:

    Also note that, what you believe Jack’s emotions are remain assumptions of him. Assumptions people are allowed to have.

    I don’t believe Zeroace is causing any problems. I see no reason why he should succumb to internet bullying. As you can see, there is no logic or reasoning and it is claimed to be an absurd command. This leads me to believe it’s a form of e-bullying.

    I don’t know what to believe about Jack. I don’t really care. I have no desire to indulge in puny internet drama. He’s him and I’m me. But what I said earlier comes from many players, not just roflsniped but at least five others.

    I don’t think Zeroace is being e-bullied. His team didn’t like him because he probably messed up a couple times. Warbawz was just being a power-hungry tournament host.



  • warbawz is at fault here since he didn’t specify clantag rules at the start of the tournament (and frankly it’s a stupid issue to bring up since it’s not gameplay altering) but the way jackbaldy “argued” against it was extremely silly and childish.

    the command itself is not absurd, it’s just changing of a name- what is absurd is the fact that he cannot deal with the fact that there are no rules pertaining to this particular issue already written and it’s generally in poor form to change tournament rules after it has started even for something small like this one.

    if warbawz does not change on the issue and is absolutely adamant, will zeroace accept the fact that warbawz is being very silly and change his name?

    or will warbawz accept the fact that there was no clear rules on player/clantags and have zeroace play with those tags?

    dun dun dun



  • @kwazi:

    the way jackbaldy “argued” against it was extremely silly and childish.

    I’d disagree with that since Warbawz claims to be 25 years old, so a grown adult should be capable of answering what is the logic and reasoning behind something he says.

    To say it’s childish is to claim that conversation where a person asks another to make sense and elaborate is childish (Since that was most of the contents of the conversation.). In that case, most of political tv needs to stop being immature.



  • the way he conducted himself with the multiple copy pastes and insulting him based on his age (doesn’t really matter how old you are especially on the internet)
    i’m not calling him childish based on the fact that he asked for logic and reasoning, just the way he asked it just seemed childish to me

    don’t get me wrong, warbawz was being a bigger child than jack was because he could not deal with the fact that the rules were not there. but all this talk of OH MAN HE WANTS TO DQ US ON PURPOSE is really very dumb when you can just change the name, beat the crap out of them, win the money and never play a tournament organized by him again.



  • Clan tags are really for active clan members. Not former members.

    Is one player worth a Clan risking its future? What if that player was wearing your clans tag in the future after being kicked out or leaving? What would you do?

    informal rule known by all Clan Leaders, clan tags are sacred. Gamers know/knew this in leagues. Well they used to. (bwctf)



  • @kwazi:

    just change the name, beat the crap out of them, win the money and never play a tournament organized by him again.

    ^ +1 Lol.



  • X - “Change your name!” Y - “No I won’t, make me!” X - “Right, that’s it, you’re not playing with my ball anymore.”

    This actually makes me not want to be associated with this game. Absolutely pathetic, all of it.



  • Telling someone to change their name is not an attempt to DQ as that player would still be playing, but with a different name. Stop dramatizing.
    _( edit: it appears the DQ eventually happened )
    _
    At the same time, your point is valid JackBaldy. This is a made up rule done for no logical reason.

    I’d say that you’re both in the wrong, but it shouldn’t have been an issue in the first place because names don’t matter. The programmer in me believes only in unique id’s (steam id’s).



  • That is all.



  • So you guys used a ringer who is not officially on your roster?





  • So many issues, its funny, however I stand by the decision that I won’t remove the tag at the end of the name.

    Its not there without reason, it has a reason, however if you force the reason out you will regret it.

    Aswell to all those who assume about my situation, be best to shut up lest you look like inane gapping mouths you present yourselves as, any further talk, and I may have to take action now eh?



  • @Zeroace:

    Its not there without reason, it has a reason, however if you force the reason out you will regret it.

    My curiosity is piqued.


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