Halberd Abuser : The Movie



  • There was a thread not long ago about how I fight weird and might be cheating : http://www.chivalrythegame.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7198

    I always said that the halberd was overpowered, too fast thrust and too good swings, but the good people of the forums seemed to think there was no problem with it. From then I took the halberd to show how ridiculous it is. Very happy with the resulting thread linked above, and even more happy that the halberd is getting a well deserved nerf. This should make the other 2 handed swords and pole arms viable again!

    So here’s a video of gameplay from the last few days:
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  • Hehe perhaps you remember fighting me now and then abuser? I always enjoyed our fights in the public servers. I now see why your animations seem odd and it’s because you look to be a European so your ping is probably a bit high.



  • Only problem I have with the halberd is it’s animations and, thus, it’s feints. Normally I’m fine with feints, but on the halberd the window which you can feint out an attack seems too large. The animation makes it so it’s nearly impossible to determine whether an attack is real or if it’s a feint, if the feint is timed correctly (especially up close). Other polearms are slower or have larger windup animations, so this isn’t as much of a problem. Halberd, however, is absurd. Granted it takes a decently skilled player to abuse the animation to achieve this effect properly, but the small skill cap shouldn’t warrant it’s nigh uncounterableness.



  • While the halberd is my choice weapon as a vanguard, is there a thread somewhere that details just whats so OP about it? Feinting? Yes feinting is sort of broken with most weapons atm, don’t blame the halberd? A nerf seems pretty rough, so what’s going to be nerfed? The reach, speed, or dmg? As MAA I rarely meet halberd vans that I can’t dispatch pretty easily, exceptions are people like Dr. Nick who have discovered the wonders of feinting ;) .



  • @Slight:

    While the halberd is my choice weapon as a vanguard, is there a thread somewhere that details just whats so OP about it? Feinting? Yes feinting is sort of broken with most weapons atm, don’t blame the halberd? A nerf seems pretty rough, so what’s going to be nerfed? The reach, speed, or dmg? As MAA I rarely meet halberd vans that I can’t dispatch pretty easily, exceptions are people like Dr. Nick who have discovered the wonders of feinting ;) .

    ‘Feinting is sort of broken with most weapons atm, don’t blame the halberd’ - worst possible thing you could have said. Halberd feints are especially broken for 2 reasons: firstly the halberd thrust feints are basically unreadable, because the windup is long but the swing is short. So you have no time to react if he cancels his feint late. Secondly, lookdown overheads with the halberd are lightning fast. This is OP on its own, but feints with it are also unreadable.

    And it isn’t just the feinting. It’s damage is way too high for a weapon of that range and speed, and add in the fact that it can do good damage with all three of its attacks… It’s just a mess really.



  • I can’t wait for the nerf on this stupid thing. I hope it makes it completely useless.



  • @Slaughtervomit:

    I can’t wait for the nerf on this stupid thing. I hope it makes it completely useless.

    Agreed.



  • @Dr.Nick:

    Hehe perhaps you remember fighting me now and then abuser? I always enjoyed our fights in the public servers. I now see why your animations seem odd and it’s because you look to be a European so your ping is probably a bit high.

    I remember you. One of the few people that actually gave me some trouble!

    I’m not sure the attack animation from my screen match exactly what people are seeing me do, so that’s why it feel i’m laggy. I’m actually from Quebec… i sound weird but i’m still on the east coast :p



  • The weapon is top rated, but not overpowered at all. The video don’t show anything that special that would make the halberd too powerful, just people failing to know that you might sometimes need to parry to get close to player who moves well and keeps his range. More skilled players, less the weapon start looking too OP.



  • I play Vanguard.

    I completely agree with the OP. The Halberd is outright the most powerful vanguard weapon, and possibly the best weapon in the game. The term “overpowered” is relative. Relative to other Vanguard weapons, it is simply the best in all scenarios I can think of. To sum up, it got all the advantages of a polearm, but none of the disadvantages. Here is why:

    • All the pros of a long polearm, range, power, decent speed and all three attacks are hard hitters. The stab have long range and the overhead can be hastened. The game does not calculate different parts of weapons (pummel, wooden handle, the blade itself). This is usually not a problem, but it provides power to the halberd swing. The combination of these factors makes the Halberd very powerful.

    • Stab animation very sublime, making it efficient at face hugging range.

    • Low recovery time for such a large weapon, meaning that a poorly timed halberd swing wont be easily punished.

    Subjectively speaking, the Halberd feels like a hard counter to most other weapons in the game. If you see vanguard in high level dueling (rare) they most of the time use the halberd. In public teamgames, competent halberd users (abusers) tend to be the most dominant force on the field.

    Personally I enjoy fighting sword vs sword, and hopefully we will see more of that after the adjustment of this jack of all trades, master of all, polearm.



  • @Slaughtervomit:

    I can’t wait for the nerf on this stupid thing. I hope it makes it completely useless.

    Can’t agree more. I’ve never complained about any other weapon being too powerful, not one, save for the bloody Halberd. This pile of garbage is so easy to kill with, so easy to exploit, and has such insane potential, I can’t believe. Faster stabs than a Spear (which is the only reason I pick a piece of wood with an arrow bloody head) with more damage, instant stabs at point blank, really delayed damage time (hey look, any noob can hit with it), so you can thrust into side of shield, or wait for bad timed parry to finish then swing in, and every attack it has combos with insane speed; but who needs to when you can spam thrust?

    Not to mention, spears/swords stab in from the right, and Halberds, of-bloody-course stab in from the left, allowing you to team up with people really easy and becoming infinitely more effective in a team fight. Why pick any other weapon a vanguard has, give me one single reason other than one shotting archers.



  • Hmm… i prefer Brandistock with the Vanguard…
    Halberd is very strong but it hasnt specific advantages which may sound “OP”, imho.

    Halberd vanguard are more the brute force who will try to run and overhead you.
    Its easy to block, just keep looking in the sky before he hits.
    IF he tries to feint, the F key is very close and fast to input.
    The kick, following with walking back and get out a long range poke with my brandistock, will keep the distance or get the kill.

    Halberd is a very strong weapon, i admit, but not OP…



  • Only attack spee from halbarde must be nerf

    Sword must be faster than halbarde (actually habarde is faster)



  • this game is becoming incredibly boring. maa serve no real purpose in organized play between good teams. knight can be good but don’t provide anything particularly special. teams that go heavy vanguard+archer wins matches easily. the only way to counter it is the go even more archer on your team and by that point gameplay is horrible

    like any game, specialists always win out over all around types over time as playerbase skill improves



  • @Slaughtervomit:

    I can’t wait for the nerf on this stupid thing. I hope it makes it completely useless.

    :cheers:



  • The halbard is a range weapon its made to do damage out of sword distance
    Just as an archer does damage out of Sword and pole arms distance
    using team work and a little skill you can over come the distance
    Lmao you nerf weapons that are disined to do damage out of sword distance
    Nerf every pole arm and acher. The game is pretty balanced in all the weapon
    Team work and. Knowing the class and weapon you chose will help you
    Not nerfing every weapon tell. Every weapon is over powed

    Just a thought. By the way I use the great sword.



  • Dunno why i just watched those 8 minutes, theres literally not a single semi-good player in it (hint: you aren’t one either).

    why would you call yourself halberd abuser when you dont know how to abuse it properly?



  • @x123:

    Dunno why i just watched those 8 minutes, theres literally not a single semi-good player in it (hint: you aren’t one either).

    why would you call yourself halberd abuser when you dont know how to abuse it properly?

    this

    well somewhat halberd does seem kinda quick



  • @x123:

    Dunno why i just watched those 8 minutes, theres literally not a single semi-good player in it (hint: you aren’t one either).

    why would you call yourself halberd abuser when you dont know how to abuse it properly?

    /
    This! You where attacking 3 people with one swing more the once and NONE of them blocked. If one had blocked u, u would have been dead. I prefere the halberd over the spear only if there are bulks of people and I need (and I’m able to) swing like a madmen otherwise I kill more with the spear.



  • lol all the op did was spam lmb against people who dont know how to block. no feints, no strafing, no mouse drags, no delays/lookdown overheads . nothing the op did in the video showed what people can call OP about the halibert. what was done in the video can be done with any weapon in the game. LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB LMB.


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