No thanks for the game - Part 2.



  • So again. I’m told that unless I swear or directly insult someone, my thread should not be locked. However once again, an active conversation on the flaws of the company making this game and how they are using lies and hype to continue sales of there game, keeps being hidden.

    Not less by someone who picked apart my comments, lumped me into a group of people who trolled my post and said I was detestable for questioning the status quo.

    If it happens again i’ll be forwarding the logs from the previous posts and this one on to steam, beginning the conversation anew on steam forums. Supressing your users complaints. Especially when your reason for closing the thread is other peoples opinions IN the thread and the methods they were using to retort.

    @SlyGoat:

    You’ve named one issue that so far I’ve never seen reported by anyone but yourself. If you have more bugs to report, by all means, there’s a thread dedicated to it in the Support section. Expressing how garbage the game is because of this one issue you were unfortunate enough to come across doesn’t really help improve anything

    I’m genuinely not surprised the map glitches haven’t been reported. Between the mods you delete any post that criticizes the game, the other people who know about the glitch and the ones using them.

    Here’s someone teaching others how to use said glitch

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INYDpvDUgQg

    Notice its #4 of many?

    @SlyGoat:

    The content update slated for release this month is not just new content, it contains a lot of bug fixes as well as an experimental anti-speedhack. I’ve never seen a so-called sensitivity exploit, configuration edits are overridden by the server, and potentially exploitable console commands are restricted to admins only.

    I don’t want new content leading to new bugs and glitches in the map. I want bugs fixed.

    @SlyGoat:

    I can’t recall the last time I saw any product big or small, complete or in development, great or terrible, that didn’t have a little reminder somewhere to subscribe to their twitter/youtube, like them on facebook, spread the word to friends, etc. Regardless of your subjective opinion on the product, it’s a little ridiculous to even mention this as a negative. If you don’t like the product it has no bearing on you either way.

    Yes. companies like users to spread word of mouth about their products. See. That usually happens naturally. Unless you’re game isn’t that good and is going to die from lack of users - then you better start forcing into the zeitgiest.

    @SlyGoat:

    This topic is now closed because there was never a real discussion here to begin with. I don’t understand why the other moderators who posted here didn’t shut it down sooner. There has not been a single constructive exchange in the entire thread between the OP and his detractors - bilious negativity we have in droves, certainly, but not one sensible discussion.

    No. If you read the Entire thread you’d notice about 7 people agreeing with my point of view, 3 trolls and 3 people raising valid points in the against. Threads closed.

    Look. Here’s how it’s going to go. You’re going to close this message, probably hide it from the main list. I’m going to post on steam and my facebook again, A friend totalbiscuit and forward the logs onto Adam over at Rock paper shotgun and Ian from Pc gamer Australia. Then you’re going to feel the wrath of word of mouth mate. This supression of peoples thoughts and freedoms of speech is exactly what starts a community turning on you.

    @SlyGoat:

    It’s really disappointing that this kind of ‘discussion’ is considered acceptable discourse these days. I’m borderline disgusted by the attitudes of most of the posters on both sides. This is not the way civilized individuals converse, and nothing will ever be accomplished by threads like this.

    Yeah, this conversation disgusts you. Right. The reign of warzesque developers claiming they are indie is coming to an end. You can pretend that the people have disapointed you, while you suppress peoples right to free speech, an active conversation about multiple people being unhappy with the status quo - better hide it so nobody notices, then tell everyone how disgusted you are.

    too much.

    This is a formal request;

    A fix for the map exploits
    A fix for the speed hack (not a work in progress)
    A fix for the sensitivity cheat. -
    A Lock out of changing variables in console once connected.
    A Lock out macros processes (hiding speed hackers love these)
    A fix for the jump crouch bug (where your sword goes through they’re body after they jump)
    A fix for the unlimited stamina exploit
    A fix for the server listing bug
    A fix for the ‘full server’ bug
    A lockout of config editing of protected commands.
    A method of kicking high ping players automatically.

    That’s just stuff I remember off the top of my noggin. Seriously.

    After all that then we can move on to the content patch. I mean all these complaints about how there’s only two programmers - SO WHY ARN’T THEY PATCHING THE CODE? why are we waiting for content as well?? it’s ass backwards and lazy. Full of excuses and we’re really just getting the full game, what we already paid for, plus the wait.



  • This one is more funny :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoZFs7cBo4c

    Also, can you elaborate, what is this sensitivity cheat?



  • @clown:

    This one is more funny :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoZFs7cBo4c

    Also, can you elaborate, what is this sensitivity cheat?

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY_UwwFLu9c

    ^ is also hilarious

    I have to becareful on ‘hows’ as these guys are looking for reasons to close this thread, but it allows you to 720 degree no scope swing… block… sigh and leap. yes. instantaiously leap in one giant circle.

    Problem is theres a few ways of doing it. Some very very simple.



  • I also agree about the indie fad death, and i am glad for it. Darkfall, earthrise, xyson, mortal online, WarZ, how many others, all hyped up and advertised their indie-ness, but all it really meant was “we dont have the money, man power, support, or ability to realize our goals, but we are going to try anyways, and we want your money ahead of time.” Notice all of the above have either failed, or are on death row.

    Now thats not to say i think Chivalry fits in with that group, because i dont. I think they’ve accomplished a lot, and they have a lot of content already in this game, BUT they do need to prioritize better. I am obviously referring to the exploits/cheat engine speed hacks.

    I am guessing they had all of this stuff in the works for a long time now, maybe even before they realized the game could be so baldy abused by cheat engine/hacking/whatever else (or didnt think many would find out), so they went ahead with the content patch.

    I am happy to hear they are planning to release a slew of bug fixes, and anti-cheat, and the content all at the same time, but unfortunately the tone is ominous to me, something i’ve seen many times before.

    I instantly grow suspicious when i see developers saying things like:
    We hope to get this in by x date. We plan to add this feature. We want to do this. We aspire to change that. We will try our best to x. We promise to x. etc etc. We plan to add <insert massive="" amount="" of="" stuff="" here="">by <upcoming month="">!!!"

    Ive seen indie devs go this path before, and it never turns out well. These attempts to drive up hype and stifle fears of a dying game only end up backfiring. The list and list of hopes, dreams, and aspirations for their game just gets bigger and bigger, deadlines are not met, and the community dwindles after losing faith.

    Chivalry should take the guild wars 2 route and be extremely vague/reluctant with dates and promises.</upcoming></insert>



  • You fail to realize that when you are trying to defend your point of view, even if your point is valid, most people will disregard it if you present it like a douche.



  • @clown:

    I also agree about the indie fad death, and i am glad for it. Darkfall, earthrise, xyson, mortal online, WarZ, how many others, all hyped up and advertised their indie-ness, but all it really meant was “we dont have the money, man power, support, or ability to realize our goals, but we are going to try anyways, and we want your money ahead of time.” Notice all of the above have either failed, or are on death row.

    Now thats not to say i think Chivalry fits in with that group, because i dont. I think they’ve accomplished a lot, and they have a lot of content already in this game, BUT they do need to prioritize better. I am obviously referring to the exploits/cheat engine speed hacks.

    I am guessing they had all of this stuff in the works for a long time now, maybe even before they realized the game could be so baldy abused by cheat engine/hacking/whatever else (or didnt think many would find out), so they went ahead with the content patch.

    I am happy to hear they are planning to release a slew of bug fixes, and anti-cheat, and the content all at the same time, but unfortunately the tone is ominous to me, something i’ve seen many times before.

    I instantly grow suspicious when i see developers saying things like:
    We hope to get this in by x date. We plan to add this feature. We want to do this. We aspire to change that. We will try our best to x. We promise to x. etc etc. We plan to add <insert massive="" amount="" of="" stuff="" here="">by <upcoming month="">!!!"

    Ive seen indie devs go this path before, and it never turns out well. These attempts to drive up hype and stifle fears of a dying game only end up backfiring. The list and list of hopes, dreams, and aspirations for their game just gets bigger and bigger, deadlines are not met, and the community dwindles after losing faith.

    Chivalry should take the guild wars 2 route and be extremely vague/reluctant with dates and promises.</upcoming></insert>

    said better than I ever could.



  • @Wingy:

    You fail to realize that when you are trying to defend your point of view, even if your point is valid, most people will disregard it if you present it like a douche.

    Yeah. Thanks for demonstrating that point for us.



  • @never1983:

    So again. I’m told that unless I swear or directly insult someone, my thread should not be locked. However once again, an active conversation on the flaws of the company making this game and how they are using lies and hype to continue sales of there game, keeps being hidden.

    Not less by someone who picked apart my comments, lumped me into a group of people who trolled my post and said I was detestable for questioning the status quo.

    If it happens again i’ll be forwarding the logs from the previous posts and this one on to steam, beginning the conversation anew on steam forums. Supressing your users complaints. Especially when your reason for closing the thread is other peoples opinions IN the thread and the methods they were using to retort.

    When you present yourself in such a hostile and non-constructive manner, those are the kinds of responses your thread is going to receive. I could’ve spent all day monitoring the thread and deleting 90% of the posts made there, but it was more efficient to just close the topic, since you set it up to fail.

    Speaking of hostile and non-constructive: hat lies have been told, let alone to “boost sales”? You seem to really like making libelous statements, I’d like you to cite some references on this. If you want to be taken seriously you should at least provide some objective proof. You’re clearly frustrated by your experience with Chivalry, but the way you’re expressing it isn’t helpful to anyone, except perhaps yourself as a way of venting.

    @never1983:

    I’m genuinely not surprised the map glitches haven’t been reported. Between the mods you delete any post that criticizes the game, the other people who know about the glitch and the ones using them.

    Here’s someone teaching others how to use said glitch

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INYDpvDUgQg

    Notice its #4 of many?

    The map glitches have been reported. Those videos were the report - they were posted in the map bugs thread way back in October. In fact, they were all fixed in a subsequent patch. So while I’m grateful you at least tried to bring a new issue to our attention, it has thankfully been taken care of already.

    @never1983:

    @SlyGoat:

    The content update slated for release this month is not just new content, it contains a lot of bug fixes as well as an experimental anti-speedhack. I’ve never seen a so-called sensitivity exploit, configuration edits are overridden by the server, and potentially exploitable console commands are restricted to admins only.

    I don’t want new content leading to new bugs and glitches in the map. I want bugs fixed.

    If you’ll re-read what you quoted, you’ll see that I’ve already responded to this. CU1 already has a significant amount of bug fixes from the live version, and bugs reported in the beta re: the new content have all been narrowed down and will be fixed before the patch goes live this month.

    @never1983:

    @SlyGoat:

    I can’t recall the last time I saw any product big or small, complete or in development, great or terrible, that didn’t have a little reminder somewhere to subscribe to their twitter/youtube, like them on facebook, spread the word to friends, etc. Regardless of your subjective opinion on the product, it’s a little ridiculous to even mention this as a negative. If you don’t like the product it has no bearing on you either way.

    Yes. companies like users to spread word of mouth about their products. See. That usually happens naturally. Unless you’re game isn’t that good and is going to die from lack of users - then you better start forcing into the zeitgiest.

    You still aren’t making any kind of point here.

    @never1983:

    No. If you read the Entire thread you’d notice about 7 people agreeing with my point of view, 3 trolls and 3 people raising valid points in the against. Threads closed.

    Look. Here’s how it’s going to go. You’re going to close this message, probably hide it from the main list. I’m going to post on steam and my facebook again, A friend totalbiscuit and forward the logs onto Adam over at Rock paper shotgun and Ian from Pc gamer Australia. Then you’re going to feel the wrath of word of mouth mate. This supression of peoples thoughts and freedoms of speech is exactly what starts a community turning on you.

    Here are my favorites from you in that previous thread:

    @never1983:

    @Wingy:

    How is chivalry glitched, to make you say its an unfinished product?

    The fact it’s glitched and is an unfinished product.

    @snickers557:

    How can this be better then Guild wars 2? Are you kidding me you hate feasted kid?

    I’m sorry but I we’ll just have to agree to disagree about what a real discussion is.

    You are somewhat correct though, there was one post in that thread that was civilized

    @Carl:

    Hey never1983, I appreciate your civil response. I feel for you guys who might be left in the dark down south, but understand that the bulk of us don’t have much problem at all and that’s why we have full servers (I’m in North America btw). With admin tools, I can kick or ban as needed (and as mentioned I haven’t had to do it for exploiting, though racism and idiocy has earned bans).

    Torn Banner, of course, is going to fix the items that are most problematic for the majority of players and then work their way down to the smaller things. As you know they are independent, and hearing how small their staff is I would imagine they are completely consumed with everything going on right now.

    Believe me, I am ALL FOR the ‘little guy’ against the ‘institution’. But I also listen to reason as well, and in this case I don’t feel that TB is underperforming or turning a deaf ear to problems being raised by the community. I think they are just overwhelmed, and as I’m content with the game as it plays now, I don’t see these issues worthy of such intense critique. Perhaps 2-3 months from now it would be more compelling, at least in my view.

    To be quite honest, the exploit/hack issues can be well-managed through good admining of the servers. If the NZ/Aussie crowd is as happy with exploiting as you say they are, then I think the issue is more related to the players than the game. If ‘honest’ servers are that hard to find, why not rent a server and place something in the title like ‘no exploiting’? If there are honest players out there, they will come and play and you can ban everyone else who doesn’t abide by your rules.

    By the way and off-topic, I’m a huge Rugby Union fan and am excited for the start of the Super Rugby season!

    Of course, you and everyone else completely ignored it.

    @snickers557:

    @SlyGoat:

    It’s really disappointing that this kind of ‘discussion’ is considered acceptable discourse these days. I’m borderline disgusted by the attitudes of most of the posters on both sides. This is not the way civilized individuals converse, and nothing will ever be accomplished by threads like this.

    Yeah, this conversation disgusts you. Right. The reign of warzesque developers claiming they are indie is coming to an end. You can pretend that the people have disapointed you, while you suppress peoples right to free speech, an active conversation about multiple people being unhappy with the status quo - better hide it so nobody notices, then tell everyone how disgusted you are.

    If you march into any company’s offices and start screaming about how their products suck I guarantee you, you’ll be escorted out by security. People need to stop confusing “freedom of speech” with “freedom to make an ass of yourself whenever you please”. There are plenty of threads created every day that criticize some element of the game and are not closed, because the criticism is legitimate and not a massive facade designed to make empty frustration seem like actual feedback.

    So now that I’ve cut through the fat, let’s get down to what your problems with the game actually are:

    @snickers557:

    This is a formal request;

    A fix for the map exploits

    As stated previously, these have been fixed long ago.

    @snickers557:

    A fix for the speed hack (not a work in progress)

    As stated previously, anti-speedhack is included in the next update. It’s still considered experimental until we can be 100% certain there are no false positives. Additionally, a much better method of globally banning players is being implemented, so they can be removed from more than just official servers for exploiting/hacking.

    @snickers557:

    A fix for the sensitivity cheat.

    You keep talking about this, but I’ve never seen it and you’ve still given no repro steps or a video of yourself or someone else performing it. Because Chivalry locks your turn angle to a maximum of X degrees per tick while swinging/blocking/etc., this shouldn’t be possible without third party software.

    @snickers557:

    A Lock out of changing variables in console once connected.

    As stated previously, all potentially abusive console variables are restricted to admins only. If you know of an abuseable command which was overlooked, by all means PM me and it’ll be restricted in the next update.

    @snickers557:

    A Lock out macros processes (hiding speed hackers love these)

    Not possible with the pervasiveness of hardware macros and the wide variety of harmless macro software designed for non-gaming use which can be easily adjusted to work while gaming. As explained before, macros in Chivalry give very minimal advantages due to the queuing system and turn angle lock during swings.

    @snickers557:

    A fix for the jump crouch bug (where your sword goes through they’re body after they jump)

    I have no idea what you mean by this, care to elaborate?

    @snickers557:

    A fix for the unlimited stamina exploit

    There is no such known exploit, this is only achievable via third party software. If you know of a way to achieve unlimited stamina within the game itself, by all means, PM me the details and it’ll be fixed.

    @snickers557:

    A fix for the server listing bug
    A fix for the ‘full server’ bug

    Still a WIP unfortunately, but finally you bring up a legitimate issue. This one is admittedly very bad, probably the worst issue with the game right now, but progress is being made with the latest update, and the beta servers are giving accurate player counts - that’s not to say there’s absolutely no way there’ll be a problem on live, but it does look promising so far.

    @snickers557:

    A lockout of config editing of protected commands.

    As previously stated, server settings will overwrite any changes made to protected configs. If you believe any particular settings should be protected that aren’t currently, PM me with the details and we’ll put it up for review.

    @snickers557:

    A method of kicking high ping players automatically.

    Already being added in the next content patch along with a lot of other options for server admins.

    @snickers557:

    After all that then we can move on to the content patch. I mean all these complaints about how there’s only two programmers - SO WHY ARN’T THEY PATCHING THE CODE? why are we waiting for content as well?? it’s ass backwards and lazy. Full of excuses and we’re really just getting the full game, what we already paid for, plus the wait.

    The content patch is going live this month. The latest build is extremely stable and should be up for testing soon, after which there are just a few more fixes and tweaks to fit in which have been highly requested by the community. Anything that was mixed will be addressed in a hotfix after CU1 is released.

    Since all of your stated problems with the game have either already been fixed, don’t exist, or will be fixed in the upcoming patch, I trust we can put an end to this, shake hands, and go our separate ways as civilized adults? :)

    @clown:

    I am happy to hear they are planning to release a slew of bug fixes, and anti-cheat, and the content all at the same time, but unfortunately the tone is ominous to me, something i’ve seen many times before.

    I instantly grow suspicious when i see developers saying things like:
    We hope to get this in by x date. We plan to add this feature. We want to do this. We aspire to change that. We will try our best to x. We promise to x. etc etc. We plan to add <insert massive="" amount="" of="" stuff="" here="">by <upcoming month="">!!!"

    Ive seen indie devs go this path before, and it never turns out well. These attempts to drive up hype and stifle fears of a dying game only end up backfiring. The list and list of hopes, dreams, and aspirations for their game just gets bigger and bigger, deadlines are not met, and the community dwindles after losing faith.

    Chivalry should take the guild wars 2 route and be extremely vague/reluctant with dates and promises.</upcoming></insert>

    This patch has been in the works since November, and a lot of the new content such as duel mode, CTF, etc. has been partially in development since before the game was released. The release date of January was only announced when it was absolutely certain it could be met. So while your concern is definitely valid, I don’t think you have to worry in this case.

    And unfortunately this is very much a two-way street. While players don’t like when dates are missed, they tend to like it even less when they aren’t given any ETA until a week before. There is no perfect system here, some people will always be suspicious or disappointed in one way or another.



  • @never1983:

    @Wingy:

    You fail to realize that when you are trying to defend your point of view, even if your point is valid, most people will disregard it if you present it like a douche.

    Yeah. Thanks for demonstrating that point for us.

    Trying to get your thread locked again?



  • I find it detestable how many people try to drag TB through the mud.

    They are a small development team that have made great strides in their independent project.

    I hear many many individuals gripe continuously about this game, and honestly, I have experienced VERY little of what these people are complaining about. I have put over 100 hours into this game, and find it not only incredibly fun, but more or less incredibly developed. The game isn’t perfect, as such a feat is incredibly difficult to perform when you have a publishing company pouring millions of dollars and thousands of manhours into a game, let alone a small independent developer. But there is not a single aspect of this game which I would deem “Broken”. Balance, while not perfect, doesn’t make the game unplayable, or even markedly shifts the meta in a single direction. MAA and Archers are easily the most overpowered classes in the game, but that doesn’t stop the vast majority of players from playing Knights and Vanguards; and those players that do play this “OP” classes, usually do not have the proper skillset needed to truly bring out the balance issues in these classes.

    As for bugs, sure, I have experienced a fair share of them, but again, nothing that even comes remotely close to ruining the game in any way. I have never had much trouble join servers, parrying attacks, etc, etc, so on and so forth.

    Point being, I feel like you, and a large number of other individuals who whine about this game and how horribly developed it is, greatly exaggerate. And at the end of the day, if you don’t like the game, and find it unbearable, move on. No one needs you to start a big fuss over this shit, and frankly, no one really cares. The only reason I felt the need to make this account and post in your thread is because I am tired of people like you bashing this Team and sullying this community.

    All issues you have brought up have been noted and they are being addressed. As for buying a “incomplete” game, in my opinion, the quality of CMW exceeds most PC games that are priced more than double what it is, and this game is provided with twice the support and replayability as most of these “AAA” titles.

    So yeah.



  • @never1983:

    @Wingy:

    You fail to realize that when you are trying to defend your point of view, even if your point is valid, most people will disregard it if you present it like a douche.

    Yeah. Thanks for demonstrating that point for us.

    Yeah, I was one of those who disregarded that wall of text because it was full of arrogance, douchery and a bit of envy.



  • My thoughts on this thread after just glancing over a few posts quickly



  • @SlyGoat:

    When you present yourself in such a hostile and non-constructive manner, those are the kinds of responses your thread is going to receive. I could’ve spent all day monitoring the thread and deleting 90% of the posts made there, but it was more efficient to just close the topic, since you set it up to fail.

    See. I’m actually making inteligent comments with force. I’m not being rude or aggressive like you and bob have been to me, I’m not going to play eye of the beholder with you.

    @SlyGoat:

    Speaking of hostile and non-constructive: hat lies have been told, let alone to “boost sales”? You seem to really like making libelous statements, I’d like you to cite some references on this. If you want to be taken seriously you should at least provide some objective proof. You’re clearly frustrated by your experience with Chivalry, but the way you’re expressing it isn’t helpful to anyone, except perhaps yourself as a way of venting.

    It’s not a libelous statement. Bad companies do bad things. You’re just so close to the problem, you can’t see it. I’m frustrated with developers releasing half products and using social media to boosts sales, knowing full well they are selling half a product. Promises to release full content later may take the guilt away for you, but it does not make it any less of a scam to release a beta or an alpha, unfinished with the excuse it’s ‘indie’.

    @SlyGoat:

    The map glitches have been reported. Those videos were the report - they were posted in the map bugs thread way back in October. In fact, they were all fixed in a subsequent patch. So while I’m grateful you at least tried to bring a new issue to our attention, it has thankfully been taken care of already.

    So you’re taking back your previous statement that the glitches I posted hadent been mentioned by anyone else - Cool. Also - they’re not fixed. You can still get into the skybox. If you’re refering to the patch we don’t have yet - Great, release it so we can stop talking about it being fixed, and play the fixed version - and find the other glitches in the map. Like the person who posted those videos made very clear. Shoddy work means he gets to go back and find more shoddy work.

    @SlyGoat:

    If you’ll re-read what you quoted, you’ll see that I’ve already responded to this. CU1 already has a significant amount of bug fixes from the live version, and bugs reported in the beta re: the new content have all been narrowed down and will be fixed before the patch goes live this month.

    A tip. Before refering to fixes - make sure they’re live. As they are not it’s all hearsay. Also, like the other mod made very clear. You have to TEST patches to make sure you’re not creating more bugs. They’re not going to test it. meaning we’ll have to start making the next list of bugs we’d like fixed in 3 months. If they did test it, chances are it’ll get delayed again.

    @SlyGoat:

    You still aren’t making any kind of point here.

    No, you’re refusing to see the point. There’s a big difference. Let me paint it out to you. Developers that hid behind beligerant mods - while not releasing important patches to game breaking games, then requesting people to sell the game for them - knowing full well they cannot even maintain the current communities demands. 4k players peak while on the top 10 sales list. Other games on the top ten list that are multiplayer are in the 10k-20k mark. What this means (HERES THE POINT BLINDY) You have high sales but comparitively hardly any customer satisfaction. YOU’RE RIPPING PEOPLE OFF.

    @SlyGoat:

    Here are my favorites from you in that previous thread:

    Cool, here are some of mine.

    @user:

    TLDR:
    If you don’t like it, don’t play it.

    ^ like its a free mod that I wasn’t told / recommended to buy because of the new content patch coming.

    @Dr.Nick:

    OP makes some good points.

    @MUSASHI:

    The OP is absolutely correct here. Well said.

    @Carl:

    Not really. I’ve found a lot of the community to be unfriendly, racist, homophobic whiners that bitch about pretty much everything that doesn’t go their way. Not all of the community, but a lot…probably 2-3 people per server at any given time.

    @seriously:

    The OP comes off pretty hostile, but he has a few valid points.

    @Flukester:

    The problem is there are obvious cheats around. Anyone can google or youtube it though I’ve yet to see 1 ban handed out yet or 1 exploit fixed. Another prominent one is people are using stairs, inclines and rocks and stuff because people can swing right through you. I’ve had it happen to me and I’ve used it to my own advantage.

    All I am saying is I agree with the OP and these guys should fix the cheats, exploits and other things wrong with the game before adding more stuff to the game. The game has a good playing community now but with continued neglect you might as well write this game off. Word gets around and people aren’t going to waste their time.

    @clown:

    this is a critical issue with the game right now, and if word gets out that any john doe can turn on his cheat engine and swing 100mph with virtually no consequence, the damage is going to be irreparable. people wont come back.

    @rinaun:

    I’ve said this since day one. I bought this game on day one, and I’ve had quite a few responses from the devs and moderators on these issues. I took a break mid November because I felt the game was going to be successful regardless of how bad it actually is, just because of the niche it fills; a lot like WarZ. At that point if you don’t like it, just stop playing it and let the smart people figure it out. So I did.

    I came back a few days ago after a 2 month break, and aside from the new server browser window that actually works, it’s not much different than the November build I played. It’s still buggy as

    Wow, amazing when you push all the people who were >obvious< trolls with 300+ posts out of the way, throwing up the usual ‘NOBODY PUTS TORN BANNER IN THE CORNER’ bullcrap, you start to see new people coming here and posting real concerns - But I guess these dudes are “known” enemies of the state, should be hidden deleted and otricized huh.

    AMIRITE? YES.

    @slygoat:

    This topic is now closed because there was never a real discussion here to begin with. I don’t understand why the other moderators who posted here didn’t shut it down sooner. There has not been a single constructive exchange in the entire thread between the OP and his detractors - bilious negativity we have in droves, certainly, but not one sensible discussion.

    It’s really disappointing that this kind of ‘discussion’ is considered acceptable discourse these days. I’m borderline disgusted by the attitudes of most of the posters on both sides. This is not the way civilized individuals converse, and nothing will ever be accomplished by threads like this.

    I also was extremely disapointed with the mods. I followed the rules and was trolled, abused and grieved for trying to present my opinion. Even had a moderator outright lie and swear at me. Instead of those users being repremanded, My thread was closed and I was told I didn’t have a point. Abuse from the people who disagreed with me was lumped in with the people who did agree and bam. You created yourself an even bigger problem.

    @slygoat:

    You are somewhat correct though, there was one post in that thread that was civilized

    Actually Carl weathers reply, thanked me for my post and took what I said about Game developers consider Australia a microcosm and turned it into a condescending note about ‘small guys with nothing are the underdog, the majority is the important thing’ Ignoring my point completely, that What happens here, Happens internationally soon after.

    @slygoat:

    If you march into any company’s offices and start screaming about how their products suck I guarantee you, you’ll be escorted out by security. People need to stop confusing “freedom of speech” with “freedom to make an ass of yourself whenever you please”.

    Actually, you rude, small man. If I went into a companies office I would use the same tone I am using to write this. Don’t assume. Dont put words into peoples mouth to defuse their arguments. Most importantly, deal with the facts not your opinions. I really think you need to look up commerce. The beginnings of our civilization and language.

    @slygoat:

    As stated previously, these have been fixed long ago.

    In reference to the map exploits again - No they haven’t - if it’s in a patch we don’t have. It doesn’t exist so stop refering to it. Cheers.

    @slygoat:

    As stated previously, anti-speedhack is included in the next update. It’s still considered experimental until we can be 100% certain there are no false positives. Additionally, a much better method of globally banning players is being implemented, so they can be removed from more than just official servers for exploiting/hacking.

    As stated previously myself. It’s a work in progress and therefore is a placeholder for a final product, much like the current release of the game. By the time any of this is done the community will be all but gone - there will be nobody to ban but people who exploit and people who don’t care about losing to exploits and poor unfortunately teenagers who put money into a game hoping to have fun, but instead get run over by ‘bullies’ who don’t even play fair. Sad.

    @slygoat:

    You keep talking about this, but I’ve never seen it and you’ve still given no repro steps or a video of yourself or someone else performing it. Because Chivalry locks your turn angle to a maximum of X degrees per tick while swinging/blocking/etc., this shouldn’t be possible without third party software.

    So what happens if you create your own server, make it look offical and have your ticks setup differently? And if you try telling me they get written over - lol - try attrib +r +s nub.

    @slygoat:

    As stated previously, all potentially abusive console variables are restricted to admins only. If you know of an abuseable command which was overlooked, by all means PM me and it’ll be restricted in the next update.

    Not completely - and the people who do it your way. There’s no way to tell an offical server from a none offical currently.

    @slygoat:

    Not possible with the pervasiveness of hardware macros and the wide variety of harmless macro software designed for non-gaming use which can be easily adjusted to work while gaming. As explained before, macros in Chivalry give very minimal advantages due to the queuing system and turn angle lock during swings.

    Yeah, what about the dodging/dash and block systems? lulz. This is like talking to a virgin about sex.

    @slygoat:

    There is no such known exploit, this is only achievable via third party software. If you know of a way to achieve unlimited stamina within the game itself, by all means, PM me the details and it’ll be fixed.

    Oh better get bogged down in semantics and quote every single thing he said with a uninformed retort.

    Anyway, you can do it via varibles as well.
    (fixed in this patch or the next one in 3-6 months?)

    @slygoat:

    Still a WIP unfortunately, but finally you bring up a legitimate issue. This one is admittedly very bad, probably the worst issue with the game right now, but progress is being made with the latest update, and the beta servers are giving accurate player counts - that’s not to say there’s absolutely no way there’ll be a problem on live, but it does look promising so far.

    The condescention can be cut with a knife. This isn’t the only legitimate issue. Stop playing this game of words, and just admit youre defending an extremely buggy beta release. Seriously, just ask yourself why you have to put up with this shit day in and day out when they could just release the code side of the content patch and nerf so many bugs (according to you)

    @slydog:

    As previously stated, server settings will overwrite any changes made to protected configs. If you believe any particular settings should be protected that aren’t currently, PM me with the details and we’ll put it up for review.

    I really don’t have the time to class you on either the UDK engine or Windows NTFS. BUt trust me, whomever told you this is greatly misinformed.

    @slydog:

    Already being added in the next content patch along with a lot of other options for server admins.

    And jesus was meant to be here like 100 years ago according to some scholars, does it change anything? no.

    @slydog:

    The content patch is going live this month. The latest build is extremely stable and should be up for testing soon, after which there are just a few more fixes and tweaks to fit in which have been highly requested by the community. Anything that was mixed will be addressed in a hotfix after CU1 is released.

    Lol. I don’t know whats funnier. The idea it might not come out this month, or the idea that it comes out and we’ll be waiting for another 3-6 months to fix the bugs it makes!

    @slydog:

    Since all of your stated problems with the game have either already been fixed, don’t exist, or will be fixed in the upcoming patch, I trust we can put an end to this, shake hands, and go our separate ways as civilized adults? :)

    They haven’t been fixed. They do exist. They’re still in the game. The current patch hasen’t been released and we’ve been waiting for a majority of these fixes for three months. I’m not shaking hands with someone who is defending people who have ripped me and so many others off. If you want to trust. I think you should place your trust in the community that shut down WarZ will be looking for you next if this patch doesn’t release quick smart. You want me to go away, give me my money back.

    @slydog:

    This patch has been in the works since November, and a lot of the new content such as duel mode, CTF, etc. has been partially in development since before the game was released. The release date of January was only announced when it was absolutely certain it could be met. So while your concern is definitely valid, I don’t think you have to worry in this case.

    thats a lot of new features and extra code, when all we wanted was the current list of bugs fixed first.

    @slydog:

    And unfortunately this is very much a two-way street. While players don’t like when dates are missed, they tend to like it even less when they aren’t given any ETA until a week before. There is no perfect system here, some people will always be suspicious or disappointed in one way or another.

    No. Players don’t like when dates are missed - especially when they’ve been waiting for a patch to fix obvious exploits, hacks and glitches to play the game they brought back in november. IF they can even see the servers in the first place! lulz. Stop defending something that’s broken and try to actually get it fixed. Ie. Stop wasting your energy on me and go hassle them with your single point breakdowns of their posts.

    And get my refund while your at it.



  • @never1983:

    I’m not being rude or aggressive like you and bob have been to me,

    And get my refund while your at it.

    I was going to write an elaborate post about why you’re being an idiot, but I decided it’s literally not worth the effort. Slygoat made a comprehensive post and yet you still don’t understand what he’s trying to say. You’re arguing just for the sake of arguing. You continue to attempt to debase the sound logic and evidence that has been spoon fed to you, yet ironically your argument has no foundation itself. Whine about Sly’s use of hearsay? Everything you’ve presented is hearsay. No proof, just allegations. I suggest you go for a walk outside and drop the disgusting sense of entitlement you have.

    Do you lack the mental capacity to have a reasonable discussion and function properly on a general forum, or are you really THAT butthurt that you need to perpetuate this?



  • @Phalanx:

    This is actually quite true and part of the problem with these threads. There is no discussion to be had here just rants (irrespective of weather it is valid or not). Perhaps you should go write a review somewhere and stop shitting up the forums.



  • Im still awaiting a relply to my question in the previous thread. Why do you think Chivalry is an unfinished product?

    Last thread´s reply was “because it has glitches”, would you care to elaborate, instead of labeling me as a troll for asking an unconfortable question?



  • Regardless of what anyone else says, I have a shitload of fun playing this game.

    I’m really tired of this “I want it, and I want it now!” attitude a lot of people seem to have anymore. If you don’t enjoy the game, simply put it down and play a different game… Or maybe even make your own game!

    As for the moderators, I think they’re doing a good job keeping up the forums and not letting topics get too out of hand.

    Quit rockin the boat so much, please. Thank you.



  • i hope you pm’d the devs about all of these exploits that you know of else they’re never going to get fixed instead of going on about stuff (you should record some gameplay in the land of aus chivalry, sounds interesting)

    as long as the devs are aware of what you are aware of they’ll eventually be fixed, no point in wasting your time typing up stuff that won’t actually matter in the long run since the people replying don’t have the ability to fix it

    if there are these bugs and such as you say it should be in the dev’s best interests to know about them privately and not talk to the mods who might botch up your words, or even worse- use them to their own advantage



  • @never1983:

    See. I’m actually making inteligent comments with force.

    I laughed at this. Intelligent indeed.

    You sir, need a tissue and to stop crying because you aren’t getting everything you think you’re entitled to.

    @never1983:

    I’m going to post on steam and my facebook again, A friend totalbiscuit and forward the logs onto Adam over at Rock paper shotgun and Ian from Pc gamer Australia. Then you’re going to feel the wrath of word of mouth mate.

    This is the part where we all start shaking in our boots, right? Not your wrath!111eleventyone

    /thread



  • @JHoersten2:

    @never1983:

    See. I’m actually making inteligent comments with force.

    I laughed at this. Intelligent indeed.

    You sir, need a tissue and to stop crying because you aren’t getting everything you think you’re entitled to.

    /thread

    I was actually kinda wondering how long it would take for you to post something here, JHoersten2. :lol:


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