Holding a bastard sword one handed..without a shield?



  • Sorry, this is kind of stupid, but how have people been using a bastard sword 1hander without a shield in the other hand. And, No, I’m not lying.



  • Not sure if this is an intended mechanic, I imagine it’s not as I only know one way of doing this which I discovered by mistake.

    Switch to your secondary weapon where you have a shield out.
    Press 3 to lower the shield.
    Switch back to primary weapon.
    Press 1 to use it as a 1h without a shield.



  • @Revak:

    Not sure if this is an intended mechanic, I imagine it’s not as I only know one way of doing this which I discovered by mistake.

    Switch to your secondary weapon where you have a shield out.
    Press 3 to lower the shield.
    Switch back to primary weapon.
    Press 1 to use it as a 1h without a shield.

    Thanks. I always thought it’s been some kind of weird bug/glitch too. :)



  • It’s a bug that should be a feature. Everyone wants it to be a feature except Tibberius (and thus refuses to fix it). Start a petition!



  • @SlyGoat:

    It’s a bug that should be a feature. Everyone wants it to be a feature except Tibberius (and thus refuses to fix it). Start a petition!

    I would really like if it was a feature. It’s really cool, but it can be hard to differentiate the secondary swords. :D



  • I sign this petition. I love using the messer 1h with no shield!



  • Would be pretty cool to be able to switch directly between no-shield 1-handed and 2-handed to mix up the fighting style on the fly. :)



  • @SlyGoat:

    It’s a bug that should be a feature. Everyone wants it to be a feature except Tibberius (and thus refuses to fix it). Start a petition!

    That sounds nice, everyone wants it but the one and only person who doesn’t play it that much doesn’t.



  • @SlyGoat:

    It’s a bug that should be a feature. Everyone wants it to be a feature except Tibberius (and thus refuses to fix it). Start a petition!

    Sounds like there will be two Occupy Torn Banner movements on the go!

    There may be room on Tibb’s desk for the rest of you, I heard he has one of those big evil offices with the huge swively exec chair and the fish tank with piranhas.



  • @BobT36:

    @SlyGoat:

    It’s a bug that should be a feature. Everyone wants it to be a feature except Tibberius (and thus refuses to fix it). Start a petition!

    Sounds like there will be two Occupy Torn Banner movements on the go!

    There may be room on Tibb’s desk for the rest of you, I heard he has one of those big evil offices with the huge swively exec chair and the fish tank with piranhas.

    Combine powers for shieldless flails?



  • Only reason to use it is to get around shields, other than that…Eh. Make it a feature TB.



  • I heard on a duel server today that this was actually explained in the tutorial, is this true?



  • Its not explained on the tutorial, but I don’t think it should exists. It looks ridiculous how a long sword suddenly shrinks to fit a one hand purpose. And knights already powerful 1h at their disposal.



  • Buckler one-handed without the flail would be cool - completely confuse opponents.



  • @gregcau:

    Buckler one-handed without the flail would be cool - completely confuse opponents.

    Psssst Gregcau, Patrick isn’t an athlete.



  • @ChuckingIt:

    It looks ridiculous how a long sword suddenly shrinks to fit a one hand purpose.

    So he can hold it 1 handed in his right hand so long as his left hand holds a shield, but if his left hand is empty it doesn’t work?

    I guess the knight needs the shield as a counter-weight to or he’ll be all wonky and unbalanced. :P



  • How does this work now in terms of damage? Does it basically do as much damage as it would if you hold it with a shield?



  • @vanacava:

    How does this work now in terms of damage? Does it basically do as much damage as it would if you hold it with a shield?

    1h knight swords are the same with and without shield, but 1h is different than 2h.

    Longsword (2h)
    .5/.5/.6 windups
    75/85/65 damage

    Longsword (1h)
    .45/.45/.5 windups
    60/75/55

    Broadsword
    .45/.4/.45 windups
    60/70/55

    Relative to a broadsword, you’re trading a little bit of speed for a whole lot of reach. Relative to a longsword, you’re trading a decent bit of damage for speed. Relative to longsword+shield, you’re giving up your shield to have parry. I discovered tonight that I actually rather like this set-up. It seems like a solid middle between fast 1hers and lengthy, powerful 2hers.



  • 1H bastard sword no shield actually uses 2H stats (times and damage) because of the bug. We should just allow it to be used without a shield and give it normal 1H stats IMO.



  • @Martin:

    1H bastard sword no shield actually uses 2H stats (times and damage) because of the bug. We should just allow it to be used without a shield and give it normal 1H stats IMO.

    Single-handed SoW definitely doesn’t 3-shot kill a Knight, and speed seems exactly the same like while wielding the shield.